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[kach22i]

I found this forum/gallery today - part of "Key publishing" I think. If you are into military stuff it's the bomb. Also an avaition section and tanks, you name it. I have not signed up - cool pictures though and a search function too.

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=16

[safewalrus]

Looks interesting Kach, guess I may spend some time browsing! This one is after all getting a bit slow after all (fewer opportunities to extract the urine, it is now that somebody made me a 'honary yank', not the same taking the pee from yourself I'm afraid.:rolleyes: )

'Caurse I could always go away and come back as somebody else - but there are a few intelligent people who might twig onto this (and most of 'em are Yanks):p

[boltonprofiles]

Thanks Katch...........

[Bergalia]

.... now that somebody made me a 'honary yank', not the same taking the pee from yourself I'm afraid.:rolleyes: )

'Honorary Yank?' Come now Yalrus you're confusing your Ý's and 'W's again.....:D

[safewalrus]

Nay mate I'm as sad as you, but see that Billy Doc guy:rolleyes:

[artemis]

'Honorary Yank?' Come now Yalrus you're confusing your Ý's and 'W's again.....:D
No. Tis true, tis true. He hoisted himself on his own petard (No Bergalia - that thing under your kilt is not a "petard", even if you think it may have the length and force of one :p ) and, as he himself admitted, he - voluntarily - met the criteria and was made an "honorary yank" within minutes of the posting. :D

[Wellydeckhand]

Peace....Thanks:D

[Ari]

Petard..oo..:eek:thats old English right ? thank you to the Oxford dictionary..

[Bergalia]

Petard..oo..:eek:thats old English right ? thank you to the Oxford dictionary..

No Ari, before Walrus says it - mine is ancient Scottish.....:D

[Wellydeckhand]

ancient Scottish White Label......... 2weeks old :D:D:D

[safewalrus]

That'sh good whishky for ye not a drop is sold 'till its four hours old!

thoughI hates to say say it 'good match there today in the calcutta Cup there Bergalia - even if the ref was playing for you! don't know if you deserved to win it; but you did deserve to come SECOND!:D :D

that's the English for you magnamonious in defeat, until you turn your back!!

[Ari]

Ah ha..a fast bowler..:D

[safewalrus]

Bloody bowler yer numpty! I'm talking Rugby Union, aruffians sport played by Gentlemen! Takes a certain amount of so'fist'ication that does!

[kach22i]

I don't know how easy it was from the original link I gave to find the Naval section of the Key Publishing forum.

Try this:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=16

Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums > Modern Military Aviation > Navy Forum

[Ari]

Just a bowl in the dark..howzat..sorry miss following that gentleman game..All black..Need new Jonah there maybe.:)

[safewalrus]

Sorry Kach thought you said NAVEL and was looking for some belly laughs!:rolleyes:

[Bergalia]

Sorry Kach thought you said NAVEL and was looking for some belly laughs!:rolleyes:

If it was Spanish navels, Walrus - we could have peels of laughter....:D

[kach22i]

You guys are funny, I don't understand half the stuff you go off on.

Too may hours alone at sae, or too many hours alone on the computer - which is worse?:D

[safewalrus]

Kach the simple answer would be both, if we knew what WE were going off on too!

Bergalia, No doubt these would be from the port of Seville mostly I guess! Though the near by ports in Norff Africa do their share!:rolleyes:

[Bergalia]

Looks like Kach has given us the pip, old boy :D

[safewalrus]

OK, OK I'll stop taking the pith!:confused:

[kach22i]

I think the problem is that some of you have a more rounded/better education in a few ways. Perhaps life experience or worldly experience may even come into play.

Don't take it personal, I'm just a silly American with a hovercraft in lieu of a proper boat.;)

[safewalrus]

No offense taken Kach after all we know that the average North American never could get it right though Marmalade an Michigan do kinda rhyme!:confused:

Now what's this about playing with a fine British Invention?:p :cool:

[safewalrus]

As opposed to that fine Scottish one mentioned earlier (Asian Scottish in fact eh! Bergalia - apparantly the gentlemen concerned now have their own tartan, no not the fortytwa! if you get my drift:rolleyes:

[kach22i]

Now what's this about playing with a fine British Invention?:p :cool:
You do know that the British government purchased the rights to the hovercraft for $70,000.00 from a private American inventor who already had a full sized working craft and not some dinky model flying in circles on a string, right?

Like many inventions, invented at the same time - the claim to fame going to the deepest pockets.

[kach22i]

http://gtalumni.org/Publications/magazine/win94/beach.html
He applied for a patent, but a British inventor, Christopher Cockerell, filed a patent application at the same time. Rather than fight the British action, Beardsley accepted a $70,000 settlement.

http://www.geneabase.com/ACV/acv.htm
A patent dispute had developed in the early 1960's to determine who had first come up with the ACV-hovercraft concept, Cockerell or Beardsley. Many factors are involved besides mere truth. Beardsley's company was in a cash-crunch, and his lawyer betrayed him by witholding vital proofs for the payment of fees. Ultimately Cockerell payed a settlement of $70,000 to Beardsley for his rights.


http://www.geneabase.com/ACV/acv.htm
Beardsley's Early Years in ACV Development:

It's difficult to establish exactly when Mel. Beardsley conceived the air-cushion vehicle, but he worked on a Navy hydrofoil project in southern California about 1950, and this was his first known involvement in marine vehicles. The air-cushion may have been a low-friction boat-hull solution, to which Beardsley added forced air as the missing element for the basic air-cushion vehicle. It is certain than Beardsley and the British inventor Cockerell conceived the air-cushion vehicle independantly. There was no way that they might have known of eachothers work. One may say that "the idea was in the air."

Beardsley's further personal research led to his patents of the early 1950's. After completing another 7 years of military service, Beardsley founded National Research Associates, Inc. (NRA) in College Park and Laurel, Maryland to build practical air-cushion vehicles.


Many factors are involved besides mere truth. Beardsley's company was in a cash-crunch, and his lawyer betrayed him by witholding vital proofs for the payment of fees. Ultimately Cockerell payed a settlement of $70,000 to Beardsley for his rights.

...........and such is the tale of history.:)

[safewalrus]

Sez something about trusting lawyer's amongst other things! Conversely as America is a former colony it sez something else, and as Britain is a former colony of Rome and Columbus (who started it all, we won't talk about the Vikings, no records) was Italian I guess we can blame them for the expensive noisy beast! Gwan there's logic in it - somewhere! Give me chance and I'll prove that Beardsley and Cockerell were the same person!

Didn't Cockerell 'invent' the warp engine? or was that Cochrane?:P

[safewalrus]

And what about the marmalade?

[Ari]

Bird ..cockerel and marmalade..o..real hard to follow..maybe easier to understand a Dugong than a walrus..:rolleyes:sigh..

[safewalrus]

Yeah I know what you mean Ari I can't understand me sometimes too! :p :rolleyes:

[kach22i]

You guys lost me again...............perhaps I need to loosen my Puritan draw strings.:D

[safewalrus]

Kach - the subject was oranges! Dundee is famous for its marmalade made from oranges I'll let Bergalia tell you the rest! You have to be in tune with the rest of the er 'team'! In this case Bergalia and I were in the same military - not at the same time or place but military people are weird like that - he'll probably give me stick for letting the cat out of the bag, but no problems we'll soon dazzle and bemuse you all again! The fact that your American just makes the job easier and more fun (theres some ex American military who know what we're about and smile sweetly but say nothing - not saying who it would spoil the fun for them!!;)

[Mudnut]

What i want to know is :can ta junk rigg a hovercraft?"Im kinda lazey

[kach22i]

What i want to know is :can ta junk rigg a hovercraft?"Im kinda lazey

I guess I'm no boater/sailor.............had to look it up.

http://www2.uol.com.br/speakup/especiais/224_teacher.shtml
Junk comes from the Middle English word jonk, which was a nautical term meaning old rope(4). The rope wasn't thrown away, but was used on the ship in other ways. Later there were junk shops which sold old materials from ships. Today junk shops sell second-hand articles, such as furniture(5), ornaments and clothes.

Where to buy a used hovercraft is the question?

In the USA..................................

http://www.hoverclubofamerica.org/forum/index.php?showforum=24

.........and this guy doing it part time thinks he can cut prices just about in half on a new craft:
http://www.hoverclubofamerica.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=701

Best thing to do is go to the event calendar, find an event near you and see all the different designs out there at play.

http://www.hoverclubofamerica.org/forum/index.php?showforum=18

Chapters:
http://www.hoverclubofamerica.org/forum/index.php?showforum=21

Ambassadors:
http://www.hoverclubofamerica.org/Ambassadors.html#Michigan

Contact info:
http://www.hoverclubofamerica.org/contactus.html

[Bergalia]

That's better. We're talking of string again......
Dundee, famous for it's marmalade and linoleum (and of course publishing - original home of Captain Marvel I believe, along with Dennis the Menace, Lord Snooty, Pansy Potter, Desperate Dan, etc etc etc - not forgetting the purely Scots genre: The Broons, and Oor Wullie)
However, I digress. Apparently a cargo of 'spoiled' oranges arrived in the port, many years back, 1700's or something. Instead of dumping them a canny Scot buying the cargo cheap, decided to make them into 'jam'. And hoots mon - marmalade was born. The recipe later stolen by a bunch of visitng Oxford dons - hence the now famous 'Coopers' label.
As an historical footnote - the surplus orange peel was mixed with linseed oil, boiled, and rolled onto hessian sacking - and linoleum was born....(actually I made that last bit up...)..........:D

[safewalrus]

You sure you made that last bit up Bergalia? have you walked barefoot on a piece of linoleum lately - I kent ya did a loon, twas all ye had in the butt and ben, but recently? standards! :p

Actually rumour has it that the 'canny scot' who bought the the cargo of oranges was actually of Indian extraction, but that's by the by!:cool:

[Bergalia]

Actually rumour has it that the 'canny scot' who bought the the cargo of oranges was actually of Indian extraction, but that's by the by!:cool:

Based on fact Walrus my boy, as you suggest it was in fact Wee Jock MacGhandi who originally bought the cargo, but became Sikh before devolping marmalade....:rolleyes:

[safewalrus]

Aye tis true, tis true, and now apparantly the family has their own 'Tartan' (which apparantly they DID NOT pinch from the 'Forty Second Regiment of Foot' kent in the hielans as the 'gallant fortytwa' even though the poor blighters of no further need for theirs as the Blur has disbanded them (got a few shot in Iraq before hand to ensure they wouldn't squirm to much) Aye twas a sad day they left the croft! :mad:

[Bergalia]

Ah Walrus, as that legendary Scots son of Oz, Angus Ned MacKelly remarked just before dropping to eternity: "Such is life...." :(

[safewalrus]

Aye and if he'd been ducking instead o' remarking he coulda' been here yet, mind you he'd a been a awld bugger! nearly as awld as us! :rolleyes:

[Wellydeckhand]

Yeah I know what you mean Ari I can't understand me sometimes too! :p :rolleyes:

I am going to print hard copy of the quote and frame it in my office:eek: :eek: :eek: ....... ye sure........ Ari wactout.....:D:D:D

[Wellydeckhand]

Orange full of dried clove stuck to it is pleasent if u r seasick....... opps wrong thread...;)

[safewalrus]

Careful with themention of oranges Welly', the House of Orange was an old friend of the Indonesians I believe (Ooops)

[Wellydeckhand]

Very Funny LOL

[JohnBeardsley]

I know this is a very old stream, but I'll update the link for info on Mel Beardsley, now at:
http://www.yatesriomar.com/acv/acv.htm
Also, any experienced naval architects' help is invited for my own canal-boat/yacht design at that Website. Thanks!