CATS of Waterworld...... The Movie

[Wellydeckhand]

Hello ladies and gems..........pardon my french....
I was wondering with all the brilliant N.A. and designer, shipbuilder or old shipwright might have the heart to tell me who design and made the cats for the movie WATERWORLD........... ?

Is it a movie trick version or the geniune item does exist....?

Many Thanks and Thousand apalogies for starting a thread that is boring...

CHEER

WellyDeckHand:confused: :confused: :confused:

P.S. The one with a scot actor? Positive Aussie

[kach22i]

That is one strange looking cat!:eek:
http://www.ozcardsinc.com/pp12/waterworld.jpg
:D

[Wellydeckhand]

I was refering to the vessel that he drove like an agile monkey..........

Is that very vessel had a website or anybody know the theory of sail interchangable to unidirectional metal frame drive?

:)

[kach22i]

I thought the little girl had a kitty or something.

Found this:

Picture of the boat (Catamaran) that was featured in the bomb movie "Waterworld"

http://www.sdboats.com/waterwld.htm
This boat actually was one of the original catamarans used by Dennis Conner when he defended the America's cup, when New Zealand tried to challenge the rules and have the cup race sooner than it was supposed to.

I'm sure there is more:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=waterworld+movie+catamaran&btnG=Search

[Wellydeckhand]

Sorry guys........ Mistaken a trimarans for a cats..... my mistake but heh ...... still wondering who know something about the design might help a lot...... Thanks:)

[SailNaked]

He is the one that actually drove the boat.

[yipster]

Designed by: Marc VAN PETEGHEM and Vincent LAURIOT-PREVOST
Built by: LAGOON
Length: 18.23 Meters (60 feet)
Boats built: 2
Built in: France
First trimaran launched: 2 April 1994
30 knot barrier broken: September 1994

http://www.geocities.com/mariner767/trans.htm

[Wellydeckhand]

Designed by: Marc VAN PETEGHEM and Vincent LAURIOT-PREVOST
Built by: LAGOON
Length: 18.23 Meters (60 feet)
Boats built: 2
Built in: France
First trimaran launched: 2 April 1994
30 knot barrier broken: September 1994

http://www.geocities.com/mariner767/trans.htm

Any ideas where I can get a picture of it crosssection and machanical genuity?

Or the the website of the Designer? Thanks alot mate........save my pretty nail from cruel typing....................Blessing indeed....:D :D :D

[yipster]

"Any ideas where I can get a picture of it crosssection and machanical genuity?"
easely found some pics of the original yesterday, no linedrawings.
your turn to contact the designer / builder or try your nails on a google.

[Wellydeckhand]

Thanks alot man....... appriciate it.......:D did anybody say u look like the guy in the MIB.......? The man phat never smile? dont shot..... just joking :D:D:D

[yipster]

that was with a smile welly :D
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/customavatars/avatar12574_1.gif
as your face fits into MIB, no offense just joking :D

for the tri's drawings go to http://www.vplp.fr/flash/index.html click process, than to process race and scroll down

[safewalrus]

hell yipster I thought it was wind! (looking at the mask welly keeps showing I guess he did too):D

[Wellydeckhand]

hell yipster I thought it was wind! (looking at the mask welly keeps showing I guess he did too):D

Sorry.......FACE underconstruction.........:cool: :cool: :cool:

Cant have people chasing me for writing rubbish and hold responsible for dirty and filty comments he..........Its aint a sin but...................then I dont like to address to :!: religious and too much :!: politic matters anyway.......:D :D :D

Yister...... Thanks for the thread reply. Got plenty wat I wan..........except.......Mmmmmmmm.....do u know someone dat can make a Neo Floodplain proof Trimarans kite like WaterWorld machine?:D

[safewalrus]

No! :cool: :p :D :D

[Wellydeckhand]

Someone in Borneo told me to better off deal with a Catamaran dan a trimarans........ more stable..........:):):)..... any truth?

[Wellydeckhand]

Let put some of these stuff into the the end of the world senario stuff

[IndianRiverMan]

"who design and made the cats for the movie WATERWORLD........... ?"

Keith Notary, I believe built the cat in Water World, not sure of the designer...I've been to his shop and seen a twin to the one in Water World being built...at least it looked so to me...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Notary
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/extreme-40-scantlings-23772.html {this has contact info inclusive but mentions a different movie so perhaps I am incorrect-been a while}

[yipster]

-kOEa-AvDWY
saw the good movie on tv last night think for the tenth? time and
noted how the pic opened with the cat splashing its ama but than
again was impressed with that boom sinking into the deck, a feetwinch,
the telescopic mast and boom and quit a few more intersting features
not often discussed and still wondering how realistic they may be :cool:

[PAR]

My understanding is they made a few different versions of this boat, a sailing version and a tricked out, telescoping stick, shoot down aircraft version, etc. The weight aloft of the tricked out version wouldn't sail anywhere without a huge risk of capsize. Practical, not very likely, when you calculate up the hydraulics and electrics alone, she'll double her weight pretty quickly. Why would you want below deck stowage of the boom? How much interior volume do you surrender to this cute feature, which is fairly precious on this boat anyway? Telescoping mast - why? What advantage over a tabernacle would this have? Rotor drive? Oh pleeeease . . . How about justifying the 2" round tubing crows nest. It's pure fantasy and well lit too.

[keysdisease]

My understanding is close what PAR just shared. One boat was tricked out for all the close up whiz - bang stuff and the other sailed and was used in all the sailing "beauty shots." It was crewed by a bunch of guys below decks and all Kevin Costner's jumping around and pulling strings was just for show, all the go was happening below decks.

[yipster]

thx for the reply's guy's and i knew i could expect answers like that, sure, 2 boats were used and its a fantasy movie and i dont mean the shooting down airplane stuff but seriously
Why would you want below deck stowage of the boom?
whats wrong with a pedal winch, ever been fighting a boom at sea in a growing storm? sails furl nowaday's in boom and/or masts and taking this pure fantasy a step further on a bi-rigged cat not only the booms but masts too can go below, various rotors are allready used for energy storage, cant and wont justify the 2" round tubing crows nest as i dont see what you mean and yes much is nonsense but there is also food for thought imho

[PAR]

I'm not picking on you Yipster, I just think a tabernacle is a much lighter system then a stowing boom (with flaked sail) and the stowing mast, well, that's a lot of internal volume to surrender to this particular feature, that doesn't help sailing, motoring or accommodations allotment.

As to the "grinder", well this is a bit interesting, but appears cumbersome, a fair bit of windage and weight, compared to a conventional vertical grinder. I can only imagine how much a telescoping mast(s) would weight, even if carbon. Keeping it in column would be a frustrating set of engineering variables too. Would the stays and shrouds reel up too, or employ free standing, sectional sticks?

I've seen solid tree masts, in the hundreds of pounds range, raised and lowered with little more then a push from the crew in well designed and counter weighted tabernacles.

Windage, weight, engineering, cost and practicality aside, I'd need more convincing to consider any of it. The grinder mounted low enough, so you aren't just using your arms would and does work effectively.

[Corley]

Franck Cammas had a bike powered grinder on Groupama3 when he was sailing the boat singlehanded. It looked a bit cumbersome but worked well apparently. I would think something close to the deck like a recumberent style bike would be a better solution.

http://yachtpals.com/route-du-rhum-9170

[PAR]

That's considerably different then the Water World arrangement. I would suspect it's pretty slow, regardless of gear ratio(s).

[Petros]

You all seem to miss the "theology" of the movie, and the reason for the gadgets. All of the "good" people used wind powered or solar powered devices, they paddled sea kayaks, used wind mills or sail boats; all of the "evil" people ("smokers") burned fossil fuel and polluted the planet (that lead to the polar caps melting and flooding the planet).

So for the hero to be able to combat fuel powered villains, he had to have some non-polluting technology to out smart the smokers. Hence the windmill, the bicycle like winch, the compressed air canon harpoon, etc.

It is silly, but that is Hollywood. That was how the writer and director had to have the movie come across, everyone that burns fuel is "evil", they destroy the planet. Clearly there is clearly no reason for it since we all obviously can get by just fine using wind and solar power.

[PAR]

I wounder what he lubed up all that "gear" with, fish guts? Pleeease . . . Personally, I'll clean the hinges on my solar panels with a blast from a can of WD-40, maybe wash it off with a little solvent from the very top of the cracking tower . . .