Why few people study naval architecture in university?

[gholamghar]

Hello
I live in Iran,here there is just about 4 schools that have ((Naval architecture)) in B.S,and as you see number of people that can study this field in university would be few,i though this is in Iran but i asked about this field from 5 engineers that live in US and all of them said in US and most other first world countries students show a very little interest for this field and all they go to fields like mechanical engineering or electrical engineering or other fields like this,
so it seems there is not much interest for people to study naval architecture.

Why is it like this?is there any problem with this field that most people do not like it?

thanks

[Fanie]

I think at a certain age every young bloke out there wants to be a gynacologist, then later in life realize he should rather become a motor mechanic instead

You do what your heart tells you, and become the best of that you can. There are few things worse than to have to do a job every day that you hate.
Life is just too short.

[Ad Hoc]

Naval architecture is a vocational or "i dream of being" type of job as Fanie says. If you wish to be a mechanical engineer there are also many more companies to work for once graduated too. So the number of companies or job opportunities is less as a percentage too. Hence if you love/want to design boats/ships etc....you select it. If you're not sure what you want...you choose mechanical engineering...as this allows one to do almost any other job much more easily.

Many people want to be rich or make money..so they choose 'business studies' hoping they can start a business to make money. But a business doing what??..they haven't a clue..they think doing business studies or an MBA automatically means making money. Still needs a sound idea or product!

Hence you choose the course which attracts you and your desires..

Which university in Iran are you studying at?

[jehardiman]

Two things:

First; very few people who study Naval Architecture, especially hydrodynamics, actually end up good at it, and that includes people who did well scholastically. I will stand behind the statement that hydrodynamicists are born, not made. Many people can just not "see" flow, which leads to all the hackney flow visualization programs which do no good to anyone. This tends to reduce the effective number of real Naval Architects as those with the degree usually find other lines of productive work, like weight engineering, accounting, or <shudder> Law.

Second; just how many "dream jobs" do you think are out there for Naval Architects where they get to run the show? Boats, ships, and yachts are commodities, not art or valuable unto itself. 2 or 3 dozen naval architects is all the world really needs, as most everyone else just needs the education to have the tools to copy previous art. We see so far because we stand on the shoulders of giants, and really only once or twice a generation anyone comes along and move us to a higher shoulder.

[Guest625101138]

Originally Posted by jehardiman

Two things:

First; very few people who study Naval Architecture, especially hydrodynamics, actually end up good at it, and that includes people who did well scholastically. I will stand behind the statement that hydrodynamicists are born, not made. Many people can just not "see" flow, which leads to all the hackney flow visualization programs which do no good to anyone. This tends to reduce the effective number of real Naval Architects as those with the degree usually find other lines of productive work, like weight engineering, accounting, or <shudder> Law.

Second; just how many "dream jobs" do you think are out there for Naval Architects where they get to run the show? Boats, ships, and yachts are commodities, not art or valuable unto itself. 2 or 3 dozen naval architects is all the world really needs, as most everyone else just needs the education to have the tools to copy previous art. We see so far because we stand on the shoulders of giants, and really only once or twice a generation anyone comes along and move us to a higher shoulder.

Most of the real advancement in the science comes from mathematicians. Look at what Ernie Tuck and Leo Lazauskas have produced. The basic science that they built on regarding wave drag goes back a hundred years. The work Leo has done on the optimising algorithms are not to be underrated either.

Rick W

[Guest62110524]

you will always find proportionately more studying, at traditional seaports, cities with a strong history of shipping e.g Rotterdam, Netherlands, Ukraine, St Pete Ru -- and Pt orchard)
\say hello to Steve Davis for me
In these place s there is work and specialist univercitys

If I were young and bright I would study Nuclear Engineering, this is the future of power generation you could do that maybe in Moscow Kiev
but I would imagine Norway De, UK would not be open to you?
What HARDIMAN says is maybe true, although it is way over my head, take people in the sailing INDUSTRY, like Bruce Farr, thats a born thing , yes siree Bob

[Manie B]

Good point

I will stand behind the statement that hydrodynamicists are born, not made. Many people can just not "see" flow

i have seen this MANY times on the mines, where i was in charge of the Mineral Benefication Plants.

[Guest625101138]

Originally Posted by Manie B

Good point



i have seen this MANY times on the mines, where i was in charge of the Mineral Benefication Plants.

What mine/s Manie?

Rick W

[Manie B]

Rick

We were subcontractors to Xstrata at a chrome mine "Kroondal" in South Afirca, 25 43 00S 27 19 14E i was in charge of re-cycling the old slimes dams that still contained a lot of chrome fines. My forte was 80 to 200 micron with cyclones and spirals that we designed and built ourselves. We also designed and built our own verical slurry pumps BUT the best rubber lined pump for normal slurry applications is still a Warman that comes for the good ole land of OZ. All the Yanks Pommies Japs and other wannabees combined will NEVER build a slurry pump as good as a Warman

cheers

[Guest625101138]

Manie
In my last real job I became the authority on bug dust. We were grinding to a P80 of 5.5um to liberate. You may wonder how an electrical engineer gets into such things but that is the nature of employment.

I also become very good at designing with Warman pumps. I think our biggest was 14X12 but I would need to check. Even so these were babies compare with the Wirth HP pumps we used.

Rick W