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Old 05-02-2007, 12:07 PM
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[quote=...strong Spanish connection even today.[/QUOTE]

Netherlands?
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Europe, Raggi, but not Spain Charlie. Though there is a very strong Spanish connection even today.
Biarritz?
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:08 PM
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:47 PM
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Europe, Raggi, but not Spain Charlie. Though there is a very strong Spanish connection even today.
That's on a lake or a river?
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:26 PM
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Where is this ?

It's the biggest town on an island with a total population of about 1,000. While you mull that over Raggi, Charlie I'll give you a hint that Guillermo and I have discussed a subject which gives a further clue. The island is a regular tourists spot and some visitors have literally spent a fortune just 'working' there.
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ok berg and all you rocket sci fi

where, wot year who
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whoops stabilty issue sorry
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Is this Shackleton at the very bottom of the Southern Ocean in 1914?
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:50 AM
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I think I see three masts and a "pipe" (as we call it), so that may be FRAM,
built by Colin Archer for Fridtjof Nansen in 1893,
so the picture may be from the drifting over the north pole (or that was the plan :-) 1895?
or it may be later when Roald Amundsen borrowed the ship and fooled the whole world (or those interested :-) by sailing south instead of nort as "planned"..
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:42 AM
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It's the biggest town on an island with a total population of about 1,000. While you mull that over Raggi, Charlie I'll give you a hint that Guillermo and I have discussed a subject which gives a further clue. The island is a regular tourists spot and some visitors have literally spent a fortune just 'working' there.
I like google :-)
But, is it snow on that picture?
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RITE CHARM Stuck in ice antartica , he was on ice for 16 months, amazing story. makes the sealers episode look like a sunday schule pikernic
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I think I see three masts and a "pipe" (as we call it), so that may be FRAM, built by Colin Archer for Fridtjof Nansen in 1893,
Damn, I arrived late on the scene again. Raggi's right of course - how could he be wrong...even though the picture Lazey offered was 'upside down' (to fool us into thinking it was in the southern hemisphere....)I've 'righted' a secion for effect.

The Norwegian explorer, naturalist, geographer and artist Fridtjof Nansen (my boyhood hero) conceived a specially built ship that would freeze into the ice pack near Alaska and drift across the Arctic to Greenland or Svalbard.

Nansen presented his proposal to the Norwegian Geographical Society in 1890 and to the Royal Geographical Society (London) in 1892. The plan was severely criticized. However, the Norwegian Parliament funded two-thirds of the cost; the remainder was paid by King Oscar II plus private contributions. The total cost of the 400 ton Fram (meaning "forward") was about 25,000 pounds sterling and built in Scotland (where else...). She had a triple oak/greenwood hull, 24-28 inches (61-71 cm) thick. It was powered by steam and/or sail.

Fram is now on display at the Fram Museum in Oslo. She was also used by Roald Amundsen, who was first to reach the South Pole in 1911.

Fram set sail from Christiania with Nansen, Otto Sverdrup (capitan), and a crew of 11 on June 24, 1893, sailing around Norway, to Novaya Zemlya (Russia), across the Kara Sea, and past Cape Chelyuskin, and became frozen north of the New Siberian Islands at 78°N latitude in late September. In March of 1895, Nansen and Frederik Johansen left the Fram and attempted to reach the North Pole, and reached 86°14' N latitude, the farthest north anyone had been at the time. They turned back when their dogs began to give out and reached Franz Josef Land, where they spent the winter, August 1895 to May 1896.
Nansen and Johansen started to Svalbard the next summer and met Jackson's party from a British expedition. They returned to Norway on the British ship Windward, reaching Vardų on August 13, 1896. Meanwhile, the Fram drifted as far north as 85°57' and eventually was released from the pack ice.Nansen, Fram and crew were reunited finally and returned to Christiania on September 9, 1896 to a hero's welcome.
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:14 AM
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It's the biggest town on an island with a total population of about 1,000. While you mull that over... Guillermo and I have discussed a subject which gives a further clue... some visitors have literally spent a fortune just 'working' there.
Come on fellers...I've practically told you the answer in the above 'quote'...
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1) ....the remainder was paid by King Oscar II plus private contributions.

2) ... built in Scotland (where else...).

3) ... Nansen and Frederik Johansen left the Fram and attempted to reach the North Pole, and reached 86°14' N latitude, the farthest north anyone
1) Funny that the Swedish king paid for this, and helped build the Norwegian nation :-)

2) Fram was built in Larvik by the Norwegian designer and boatbuilder Colin Archer. His parents emigrated from Scotland to Norway, so he was Norwegian in the same way our children will be Australian(?).

3) Hjalmar Johansen was the name, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Johansen

There are a number of famous stories about those two men, like Nansen lying in the water with the polar bear over him saying calmly to Johansen (with the rifle), "Now you better hurry up, Mr Joahnsen".
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