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Old 12-03-2009, 01:29 PM
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Figueira da Foz has colorful boats.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:25 PM
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Figueira da Foz has colorful boats.
Coimbra - Figueira da Foz = 53 km by highway and ± 38 km lineal so it could be right. But are the boats collecting weed? ‘‘the boats were used to collect weed’’

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¿..town..? 7th-ath September. "S. Paio da ¿..freguesia..?" Pilgrimage, especially interesting for folklore. Typical fair with pagan origins, traditional "Holy Bath", boat procession collecting sea-weed on river.
That ‘‘¿..town..?’’ / ‘‘¿..freguesia..?’’ is 93 km from Coimbra by highway and ± 69 km lineal. That's out of range of the ± 40 km radius Guillermo said. But maybe Guillermo did go there on his trip home or to Coimbra...?

And maybe they gather the weed at several places?

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Old 12-03-2009, 02:45 PM
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Richard Barker, "Sources for Lusitanian Shipbuilding", Lisbon Round Table, September 1998: Archaeology of Medieval and Modern Ships of Iberian-Atlantic Tradition-"In antiquity, Lusitania shared the Celtic heritage of the west of Europe: rafts and primitive types have been recorded, skin boats are referred to (and even reconstructed); dug-outs too. We then have notice of Phoenician influence...The traces of some of this history can be seen in Portugal's inshore fishing craft, some of which are considered to be of...Phoenician origin, iconographically, and from the known trade routes...lasting northern influence had reached the Douro in the fifth century: Filgueiras has demonstrated that the boats and ploughs alike of the Douro region match those of the Suevi from the southern Baltic area."

"Aveiro is known as the "Venice of Portugal". It is located on the great Ria and sliced by three canals each spanned by arched bridges. Once a wealthy centre for fishing, salt-panning and the gathering of a water weed used for fertilizer, it still possesses considerable charm including the brightly painted 'moliceiro' boats with high curved bows which are of Phoenician origin…" <22>
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Old 12-03-2009, 03:50 PM
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Richard Barker, "Sources for Lusitanian Shipbuilding", Lisbon Round Table, September 1998: Archaeology of Medieval and Modern Ships of Iberian-Atlantic Tradition-"In antiquity, Lusitania shared the Celtic heritage of the west of Europe: rafts and primitive types have been recorded, skin boats are referred to (and even reconstructed); dug-outs too. We then have notice of Phoenician influence...The traces of some of this history can be seen in Portugal's inshore fishing craft, some of which are considered to be of...Phoenician origin, iconographically, and from the known trade routes...lasting northern influence had reached the Douro in the fifth century: Filgueiras has demonstrated that the boats and ploughs alike of the Douro region match those of the Suevi from the southern Baltic area."

"Aveiro is known as the "Venice of Portugal". It is located on the great Ria and sliced by three canals each spanned by arched bridges. Once a wealthy centre for fishing, salt-panning and the gathering of a water weed used for fertilizer, it still possesses considerable charm including the brightly painted 'moliceiro' boats with high curved bows which are of Phoenician origin…" <22>
Hi Hoyte,

By ‘‘¿..town..?’’ and ‘‘¿..freguesia..?’’ I refered to a place on the coast of the Aveiro district, northwest of Aveiro city. I guess now that there could be several places where they collect water weed on the river with these colorful boats. In that case your first guess, Figueira da Foz, could be the right answer as it is within the ± 40 km radius Guillermo called for.

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Old 12-03-2009, 08:29 PM
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Roman town = Aeminium.
I don't think that's right. My guess is that Aeminium was the ancient name of the city wich is now named Coimbra wich was founded by the Romans. But that the ruins 15 km south of Coimbra are the remains of an even older Roman town, named ...............

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Old 12-04-2009, 01:36 AM
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Aveiro is the coastal town, said to be the "Portuguese Venecia" although that's, in my opinion, somewhat exaggerated. Anyway it is a very nice and charming little town. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aveiro,_Portugal (surprisingly wikipedia doesn't mention the moliceiros, the most well known attraction in Aveiro)

"Moliceiro" boats were used to collect an special kind of seaweed named "moliço" in the portuguese language. It was (it is) used to fertilize the fields. They were also used for fishing, salt and other goods transport, highing the freeboard as consequence. The moliceiro boats are nowadays actively raced under sail. See image.

There is a very active association devoted to the keeping and promoting of the "barcos moliceiros": http://www.net-moliceiro.inovanet.pt/ (portuguese). Here a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Wg-xsoN9E

Angel is right, Aeminium was the roman name for Coimbra. Now he has given the definite clue for the ruins: 15 km south of Coimbra. And the name is.....

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Conimbriga are the Roman ruins.
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Ok Hoyte , your turn!
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:51 PM
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It's a river, but it is not.

Clues: shallow, about 241 km long, up to 8 km wide with 2 sea water inlets. Boats are typically light draft or center boarders here. Somewhat local to me(3hour drive).
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It's a river, but it is not.

Clues: shallow, about 241 km long, up to 8 km wide with 2 sea water inlets. Boats are typically light draft or center boarders here. Somewhat local to me (3hour drive).
Indian River Lagoon

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Hi Hoyte,

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Thanks, here some info about the quest. At my search I saw that the Indian River Lagoon has not two but six sea water inlets.

From North to South: Ponce De Leon Inlet - Port Canaveral Inlet - Sebastian Inlet - Fort Pierce Inlet - Saint Lucie Inlet - Jupiter Inlet.

See also the info of the Florida Oceanographic Society.

The picture on the drawing seems to have been made of the Jupiter Inlet Lighthouse.

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Jupiter Inlet Lighthouse.

And here a picture that seems to have been made from ± the same position as the drawing.

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This one was finished much too soon. Would you like to organize a new search? And to be honest, I am very busy next week

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The illustration was from an article written in 1886, by James A. Henshall, M.D., from the book Tales of Old Florida, which I fall back on for clues when I don't have any other supporting photography available.
The riddle is an easy one: Nestle took over my favorite swimming hole and bottles the water for sale. This hole feeds the Hillsborough River and its namesake figures prominently in one of Jules Verne's most famous works of literature. Name the book, the hole and the name of the bottled product.
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