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Old 01-09-2011, 04:18 PM
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i wonder which of marks rights have been taken away

i keep hearing about a lot of lost rights but not what they are

trying to give people a better life is not taking their rights away

otto bismark, that socialist, was all for health care
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:48 PM
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Rights? Freedoms? Yes, if I cared to think about it, there are problems.
The single biggest factor is, as proven here, California, Europe, the USSR, or anywhere else, spending other's money doesn't work. Spending more than you take in DEFINITELY doesn't work.
They are coming after the internet now, BTW.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:51 PM
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under normal circumstances when inflation is low a deficit is a sign of a growing economy

and isn't systemic inflation low now?
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Old 01-09-2011, 05:28 PM
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Is inflation low? They,er not using the same math they used when Mr. Carter was pres. rick
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Old 01-09-2011, 05:30 PM
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oil and food are rising but it's not general inflation
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Old 01-09-2011, 05:30 PM
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wardd,
"can anybody tell me what money is for?

why does it exist?"...this has not been answered for you, but please spend the time to listen to all of this, he does go on rather slowly, but the info is very real, and needs to be addressed asap, if you expect anything left of the USA for your children to live in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Yf3FCZ5FY
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Old 01-09-2011, 05:36 PM
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until the inherent problems in our current economic system are addressed there is a built in boom and bust cycle

and if we don't also address the coming social and technological changes coming within a generation there will only be the haves and havenots and the usa will resemble the world of robo cop
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:59 PM
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Inflation is low as politicians and other people that don't understand inflation's serious implications define it. I define it differently and my definition is always spot on correct on this. You can get this as it is not complicated.
Forget, absolutely throw it out, erase from your mind M1, M2, etc.. Forget even "The overall general upward price movement of goods and services" or whatever similar definition the people who would have you confused and the people who are confused themselves talk about.
One can dink around with the money supply in a lot of different ways but long-term trends always comes back to one thing - how much money there is. Third world shitholes, without the insight to hire an economist or with evil intentions or with a person in control unwilling to listen to his economists (Nixon, for example was taught that stupid "price controls" can't work and he, for politics or ignorance, placed them anyway. Barack, Geitner, etc., who can figure what they smoked to come up with a spending and printing plan to get us out of a hole caused by...too much spending? Yes, it was a third-world shithole thing to do.) spend more money than they have, then print money to pay back debts. Sorry, while we're on Barack, keeping Kinko's working 24/7 for two years does not constitute a "jobs program".
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Old 01-09-2011, 09:09 PM
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I addressed money in post 11260. It was a tad tongue-in-cheek so I suppose your attachment is a better learning tool.
"Actually, I think we should put McCain up again. That will be good for America." - I posted this two days ago and there was no response. I imagine folks from other countries may not even know him, but US citizens get a "D"...or an "A" depending on if you got that the reason putting him up would be good for the country is that he is perhaps the only one able to lose to Barack. Four more years of Barack and even the diehard racist blacks and Wads of the country will get the point driven into their heads - "It doesn't work".
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Old 01-09-2011, 09:41 PM
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it was the big banks that created wealth with money that didn't exist

a huge amount of us currency is squirled away by people in other countries and used in the local economy, leaving a dirth of currency here at home, a lot of money printing is to make up for that

gold and silver is a lousy basis for money supply in the modern world

the money supply has to be adjusted for economic conditions

no matter what you use for exchange there has to be a common agreement on it's worth and the worth of goods sold, be it paper or gold
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It appears this thread has veered more into politics than climate change now;
with little if any direct relevance to boats or boating, and after 750 pages, I think it's time to close this one.
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