What Do We Think About Climate Change

[Guillermo]

You have proved to me nothing yet, idiot.

Show us your credentials or shut up, LIAR!

(Wow, I'm surprised to realize how miseducated these little boys can be....! )

[Boston]

you have been caught out in a blatant lie Guillermo

in post 5840 you offered to apologize if proven wrong and accepted the use of a third party to do so
although you mindlessly suggested a random third party which you have yet to meet but that you suggest is a known and trusted
entity
although obviously the two are mutually exclusive conditions

I have in turn sent the pertinent information to a known and trusted member of this forum who I might also point out I have not always seen eye to eye with
in light of this you are now refusing to apologize

you are now a proven liar

and your childish insistence on refusing these facts is evidence of a need for professional help

I apologize if my rebuttals have led to this seeming break from reality

[Knut Sand]

Originally Posted by troy2000

And I'm even smarter than they thought I was, because I gave them up as a waste of time after two meetings.

Heh, then I'm even smarter than you, as I didn't even show up to their meeting... .

I've always heard that Norwegians are sometimes considered rude, as we hunt whales, eat horses (served horse meat to an Englishman, he havent spoken to me since...), we hunt, we fish, we don't know the unwritten rules for social behaviour in Europe... Well I'm learning from you guys, soon my potty training period is over, and I will be ready for social and cultural life,as the elite does it...
methinks...

Still wish you werent screaming so much in here....

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by Knut Sand

Heh, then I'm even smarter than you, as I didn't even show up to their meeting... .

I've always heard that Norwegians are sometimes considered rude, as we hunt whales, eat horses (served horse meat to an Englishman, he havent spoken to me since...), we hunt, we fish, we don't know the unwritten rules for social behaviour in Europe... Well I'm learning from you guys, soon my potty training period is over, and I will be ready for social and cultural life,as the elite does it...
methinks...

Still wish you werent screaming so much in here....

I am with you on this one, Knut. I would rather shoot myself than have to sit through all that droll cr@pp.

[Boston]

Guillermo from post 10234

I have not questioned you have been in Boulder, but what degree you reached there, as well as your allegued universitary scholarships at the MIT and the WOODS institution.

Dam Guill you get caught out in one lie and now its like the flood gates are open

this is clearly another lie as can be seen in post 9833 were you claim my time at university is imaginary

Guillermo from post 9833

Boston,
As suspected you are now making distracting manoeuvres because you can't present any kind of credentials for your imaginary universitary formation. Not even for secondary school.

and again in post 9821 you clearly question my enrollment which has now been established

Guillermo from post 9821

and CU Boulder to check if you have ever been enroled there as an student, as I suspect all that garbage is nothing but your usual liar's delusions of grandeur.

then in post 9840 you promise an apology if proven wrong, which you were in post 10233 and yet now you are lying and claiming that you never questioned my presence at CU, post 10234 were you clearly are attempting to lie your way out of an apology

Guillermo from post 10234

I have not questioned you have been in Boulder, but what degree you reached there

Troy from post 10233

I've seen a copy of a letter to Boston from the University of Colorado at Boulder Alumni Association, confirming his status as an alumnus of the University. So I think we can at least accept his statement that he was there....

obviously you are lying and obviously you are not apologizing, the only possible conclusion is that you question the word of others because your own word is not worth a **** as has just been proven by multiple references

what I find really funny is the number of misspellings in your posts Guill, are you sure it is not you who failed grammar school

I also cant help but notice your attempts to "Weasel" out of the apology that you promised if you were proven wrong which you have been

who could have guessed playing with climate deniers could be so much fun eh

cheers people
I sincerely hope every one of you have a fantastic day
I sure am

B

ps

you could simply man up and make your apologies G, retract your statements about my school enrollment and then analyze my previous posts before you demand proof for things which only exist on that planet you seem to be marooned on cause here on earth I've been very sparse about what I lay claim to.

its always easier to simply admit when one is wrong and learn something from it
but of course there are those folks who stubbornly refuse to ever admit anything and simply remain ignorant there whole lives
sad but true

the only real question in life is which kind of person you chose to be cause one is free and always learning new things and the other is caught in a web of self deceit

tallyho gentlemen
its going to be a spectacular day

B ( oh looky there I'm hiding behind an abbreviation )

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by Boston

you have been caught out in a blatant lie Guillermo

in post 5840 you offered to apologize if proven wrong and accepted the use of a third party to do so
although you mindlessly suggested a random third party which you have yet to meet but that you suggest is a known and trusted
entity
although obviously the two are mutually exclusive conditions

I have in turn sent the pertinent information to a known and trusted member of this forum who I might also point out I have not always seen eye to eye with
in light of this you are now refusing to apologize

you are now a proven liar

and your childish insistence on refusing these facts is evidence of a need for professional help

I apologize if my rebuttals have led to this seeming break from reality

Excuse me, but you have proved nothing satisfactorily. You seem to have just sent a document to Troy about you being an alumni in Boulder. The question is: an alumni of what matters/studies?

And I do not remember to have accepted Troy as someone I trust, as I asked you for, as he is not neutral in this nonsensic discussion. I have offered you to send the information to me by e-mail, or then deliver it to someone in Denver, which I'm ready to do. If you want so, I can send to your home a courier service, paid by me of course, to pick up the documents proving what your studies were at WHOI, MIT and Boulder, for me to understand what your level of academic/scientific formation is. Tell me whenever you have them, provide your name and address, and I'll send inmediately the courier service.

If after that I need to apologize, I'll gladly do it.

In the mean time, why don't we come back to a civilized debate? I would appreciate very much (I have asked you before for this several times, but you have been unable to do it), if you could avoid calling me denier and the like, as well as use a respectful attitude. Disagree whatever you want, but do not put yourself in an scorning position of superior knowledge that you have not. You are as a layman as I am about these matters.

Perhaps you have realized I only become agressive to you when I try to bring here useful information from an sceptical point of view, by posting here papers I find of interest (be them in agreement with what I think or not) and my own thoughts, graphs and numbers, but you, instead of just saying "I do not agree with you" and provide whatever information you like to bring in to contradict from the AGW camp, begin with your scorning and names calling. I had warned you a long time ago about me knowing also very well how to scorn and insult, if that is the way you like, as you have had the opportunity to realize.

I do not react agressively to disagreements (Troy, hear this), because that's the essence of debates, but to personal attacks. That's exactly what you and others here are having from me, when you begin with that kind of disrespectful commentaries. I'm tired of them.

And if you have problems with other posters here from the sceptics side, who scorn and insult you, answer specifically to them in the terms you want, but not generalize, please. I'll do the same on my side.

What do you think about this my proposal? Can we stop with this embarrassing personal confrontation, useful for nobody and come back to a more rational debate?




P.S. This post of mine has crossed with your last one

[wardd]

can't we stick to the real science that proves agw?

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by wardd

can't we stick to the real science that proves agw?

You are kindly invited to bring here such science, for all of us to learn

P.S. And I hope you'll be able to accept the bringing in of science and commentaries doubting about it.

Cheers.

[Boston]

its a simple mater of credibility Wardd

I just thought it deserved to be pointed out that all the spit and vinegar Guillermo has been spewing has just been dash'd on the rocks of life

there should be another respected member stepping forward to second that confirmation as well as additional confirmations coming soon

if any of you have ever tried to go back 25 years and dig up your school records you will know that it takes a while

the truth will out people
the truth will out

and has

Guillermo the weasel has lied again

[wardd]

Originally Posted by Boston

its a simple mater of credibility Wardd

I just thought it deserved to be pointed out that all the spit and vinegar Guillermo has been spewing has just been dash'd on the rocks of life

there should be another respected member stepping forward to second that confirmation as well as additional confirmations coming soon

if any of you have ever tried to go back 25 years and dig up your school records you will know that it takes a while

the truth will out people
the truth will out

and has





Guillermo the weasel has lied again

unfortunately the truth wills out only if it is accepted, which the deniers will never do

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by Boston

its a simple mater of credibility Wardd

I just thought it deserved to be pointed out that all the spit and vinegar Guillermo has been spewing has just been dash'd on the rocks of life

there should be another respected member stepping forward to second that confirmation as well as additional confirmations coming soon

if any of you have ever tried to go back 25 years and dig up your school records you will know that it takes a while

the truth will out people
the truth will out

and has

Guillermo the weasel has lied again

This qualifies you, Boston. No use of trying to be gentle to you.

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by wardd

unfortunately the truth wills out only if it is accepted, which the deniers will never do

And this qualifies you too, wardd.

[wardd]

for the 6,000 years of the earths existence the temp has gone up and down

besides all the hot air falls of the edge of the world

[Boston]

ok enough of that
I agree with Ward its time to move on and simply let further proof be offered as it arrives

Guillermo
you have clearly been caught out trying to deny your accusation that I had not attended university, obviously as has been pointed out you did question my attendance and obviously you are now claiming you did not.

its right there for all to see

that should be the first apology you focus on
for trying to deceive the readers into thinking that you had only questioned what my degree was in ( which I have actually never mentioned on the forum ) rather than if I had attended university at all or even graduated grammar school ( which is the claim I actually made and will continue to defend )

obviously and with additional confirmations coming this has been clearly established

you have lied about what you earlier claimed and you have been proven wrong about my educational status

I believe an apology to both myself and the group is in order as it is to the group not you that I am willing to prove my word

sorry there mate but trust is earned and you have some work to do on that score

cheers
B

[Boston]

Guillermo
I cant help but notice that once evidence of my education becomes available you suddenly are desirous of a more civil tone when in fact it is you who's tone has been most uncivilized

I believe the readers can confirm that my tone has been remarkably restrained given the litany of accusations I have endured

all I have done is show the group where the flaws in your logic lie so that the truth might out in the end

and it has

for you the truth need be no more painful than a simple admission and apology to the group

we are all wrong from time to time
the only difference is in how we handle it

I am simply defending the science of climate change which is well founded in one of the largest efforts science has ever undertaken
your taking the underdog view is a near certainty of error
its your choice what position you defend not mine

I believe it is also prudent to point out the difference between denying the science and being skeptical of that denial
by insisting for instance that vapor proceed temp rather than follow it you are denying the science
a skeptic questions a reasonable doubt where as a denier refuses to admit facts
like CO2 has been experimentally proven to be a greenhouse gas
or that the oceans can not be the source of atmospheric CO2
or the mass isotopic measurements proving that the additional CO2 is virtually entirely from the burning of fossil fuels
the list goes on forever but what your doing is denial not skepticism
I will not compromise on the correct use of terminology

cheers
B