What Do We Think About Climate Change

[wmonastra]

we could always follow the sheep and go buy one ourselves and join in on the fun lol

[Frosty]

Can you ride a sheep?-----, No I don't mean like that, I mean sit on it, or get a few of them and get them to pull a cart like Ben Hur did.

You dont need to have swords sticking out of the wheels or anything just sensible transport.

[Knut Sand]

Originally Posted by Frosty

and get them to pull a cart like Ben Hur did.

You dont need to have swords sticking out of the wheels or anything just sensible transport.

Hmm, sword sticking out of the wheel base, sounds sensible to me.....

[wmonastra]

i can try lol.. i know of a few sheep farmers who may let me play for awile lololo

[Pericles]

Brian,

How about a really hard driving test before sheilas are allowed to drive 4x4 vehicles? That should reduce the numbers outside the schools. Also, put stickers on the SUVs that illustrate big vehicles are substitutes for large hairy testicles. BTW, it's the catholic schools mothers who are the most brain dead at the wheel. Too many kids to get ready, means they are always late and so they drive without due care and attention. What's worse is they are so FAT & UGLY.

In earlier times, kids had to walk 5 miles to school and back each day. The classes got smaller as wild animals took their toll, so only the quickest and smartest survived. This ensured very good pass marks for sport and science (evolution) exam results

I trust all who read this are openminded.

Perry

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by Pericles

BTW, it's the catholic schools mothers who are the most brain dead at the wheel. Too many kids to get ready, means they are always late and so they drive without due care and attention. What's worse is they are so FAT & UGLY.

My wife will be very happy to know your kind opinion on her, thanks.

Cheers.

[Knut Sand]

Originally Posted by Guillermo

My wife will be very happy to know your kind opinion on her, thanks.

Cheers.

Ummm.... Just to avoid WWIII in here, maybe he didn't mean it quite that rude...?

And btw, my opinion here; (here in Norway) worst drivers are 18+, barely (just got their license) with a overweight of young men (girls coming strolgly after..), They can't die. They have fast cars. They neglect rules and common sense. They did not consentrate in the class when teacher was talking about the Newtons first, second and third law..... They lack fundamental understanding....

They don't undertand the simple fact that if too many of them die, I'll have none to change my diapers when I get old....

[Pericles]

Guillermo,

You are an early bird! These are UK mothers!!

You do not live 200 metres from Sacred Heart primary school in Ruislip. Seriously, the mothers drive at over 64 kph along a short stretch of suburban road which is only wide enough fo one car to pass due to all the parked cars. The official speed limit is 48 kph, but there are plans to reduce this to 32 kph.

See map. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...=newsearch.srf

The mothers enter Herlwyn Avenue at both ends. Those from the south cut the blind corner (A for Avenue) by driving on the right hand side of the road. The other mothers enter from the north, turn left into Beechwood Avenue, right into Crosier Way (even narrower) and blast along weaving side to side to pass parked cars. Then they stop within the forbidden stop zones and swear if there are objections from the people who live by the school. Let me say this, they are the worst looking harridans you will ever see. Be very, very thankful that you and your family live in Galicia. I can't wait to move away from where the arrow points. I'll email you a Google earth image.

Best wishes,

Perry

PS

08-55 BST. A crash has just happened at junction of Crosier and Herlwyn at the E of Herlwyn. Just car damage, no injuries.

[Meanz Beanz]

Get a grip man.... Fanies having a mid life points crisis, get over there!

[safewalrus]

Screw the bloody leaves!!

[safewalrus]

Lucky leaves!!

[DanishBagger]

But they're bloody, so the "screwer" might be a bit unlucky.

[masalai]

Eh? what is this screwing stuff plastered all over the place? has a new brothel been opened? & no one told Frosty? OOOooOOoOOOOoooooooo

[Frosty]

Excuse me,--- I do not frequent brothels,-- they are bars that have nice friendly girls that are unkindly labeled by the activities of the so called brothels that the rest of the world seem familiar with.

Ok some are!! but not much,-- well ok theres quites a few I suppose.

Just checking the thread,Ok this will do.

The climate changed last night in the Bar when 5 Indians walked in. Normally these people are not welcome in "Brothels" and the piano player stopped and every one new they had come in" if you know what I mean:

Then --then-- Oh Oh 2 of them took 2 girls off to the short time rooms that are just across the gardens from where me n mates were sitting.

After about half an hour one of the girls comes out as mad as hell, threw her hand bag onto the table where she was sitting and sat there breathing fire.

In dont know what happened but Im sure it was money,-- ie,-- did not comply with previously arranged negotiation.

The are all the same,--they are not welcome in most bars at all and some places have signs up ,--especially for the Arabs.

Any way the climate in the bar was destroyed and the atmosphere was different.

[Pericles]

There is a thread on the forum about identifying places, However, here is where I post this location link as it is somewhere I decline to visit, bearing in mind the nature of this thread. Talk about immobilized!

http://www.ilovemycarbondioxide.com/...ng_in_2008.pdf

Moving on, for this link from Brian last March about a lump of ice the size of Man.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7313264.stm

Earlier this month, I was prompted to write twice to Richard Black, Environment Correspondent, after reading this cut & paste article.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7461707.stm
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Dear Sir,

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

The NSIDC site latest report is dated 3rd June. After reading it, overall, I have to say that your 18th June article is more alarmist than their factual analysis. What did you use for your source? For example, you seem to have ignored this statement at their site.

"However, the unusual location of some of this year's first-year ice may help more of it survive than otherwise might be expected. This year, much of the first-year ice is farther north than normal, and those northern areas receive weaker solar radiation. So, northern first-year ice may be less vulnerable to melt than first-year ice in typical locations."

You wrote

"In March, Nasa reported that the area covered by sea ice was slightly larger than in 2007,"

yet you neglect to point out that NSIDC have posted the figures for May;
Overview of conditions

Arctic sea ice extent for May stood at 13.18 million square kilometers (5.09 million square miles), which is 0.28 million square kilometers (0.11 million square miles) greater than May 2007, but is still 0.42 million square kilometers (0.16 million square miles) less than the 1979 to 2000 average for the month.

Conditions in context

Although ice extent is slightly greater than this time last year, the average decline rate through the month of May was 8 thousand square kilometers per day (3 thousand square miles per day) faster than last May. Ice extent as the month closed approached last May’s value.

Average Arctic Ocean surface air temperatures in May were generally higher than normal. While anomalies were modest (+1 to 3 degrees Celsius, +2 to 5 degrees Fahrenheit) over most of the region, temperatures over the Baffin Bay region were as much as 6 degrees C (11 degrees F) above normal. The atmospheric circulation in May was highly variable. The first half of the month saw strong winds blowing from east to west over the southern Beaufort Sea. This wind pattern probably contributed to polynya formation near Banks Island and along the northwestern coast of Alaska.

Since then, of course, conditions are not the same. Witness the reports at http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com...y-temperature/

There is also a change in satellite data collection.

The DMSP F13 satellite that has been central to our Arctic sea ice analysis for the past several years is nearing the end of its mission. As is standard data practice, we have transitioned to a newer sensor, in this case the DMSP F15. The DMSP F15 has the same type of sensor as the DMSP F13.

NSIDC has done preliminary intercalibration to assure consistency with the historical record. Further calibration and processing will be necessary, which may slightly affect final reported ice extent values (on average +/- 30,000 square kilometers or 11,600 square miles per preliminary number reported).

As for what Julienne Stroeve believes:

"But now it's so thin that you would have to have an exceptional sequence of cold winters and cold summers in order for it to rebuild."

I would say be careful what you wish for. Where is Solar Cycle 24?

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...e/mdi_igr/512/

Yours faithfully,


Dear Sir,

Further to my earlier email of 19th June, I draw your attention to a document entitled Solstice Sea Ice Update. Currently Antarctic ice extent is running nearly 1 million square kilometers higher than last year at this time. Peak comes at the end of the southern winter (September). In contrast, the Arctic set a record for the least extent since 1979 last September. It recovered at a record pace in the fall and reached levels more like several years ago this past winter. Last year the upper level pattern in June was very anomalous with a strong ridge of high pressure and warm surface temperatures. The ice melt was rapid. that blocking high pressure led to anomalous warmth near Siberia and Bering Strait and near Greenland leading to rapid ice melt. The surface wind flow helped drain ice from the arctic into the Atlantic at a much higher than normal rate.

This year for the same 20 day period, there is a cold trough migrating around the Arctic Ocean with blocking confined to Greenland. The result is temperatures much closer to normal over much of the arctic and cold pools near the Bering Straits and Siberian coast. Models suggest the cold pool strengthens some in the arctic the next few weeks. It is a long time until September, but if the pattern persists, we will likely come up short of last year’s record. The global sea ice which has been running above normal is now near normal. By Joseph D’Aleo, CCM, AMS Fellow

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/SOLS...ICE_UPDATE.pdf

In southern Chile, Chaitén continues to disrupt life. The Chilean Minister of Public Works, Sergio Bitar, visited the Chaitén area 20th June, and said that the town of Chaitén would not be inhabitable for at least two years. Not since early May has there been a report on the BBC site. Isn't it important enough?

http://www.seablogger.com/?page_id=11086

http://volcanism.wordpress.com/

Yours faithfully

Did I expect to get an reply? No, nor really

It just goes to show how biased the BBC is with regard to supporting its EU paymasters, whose desire is to destroy all Democracy in Europe by using green taxes. Global cooling will do them over good and proper like. Know what I mean, John?

http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle3257748.ece

BTW, A international expedition discovers clues about 1999 gigantic volcanic eruption in the Arctic Ocean. Question, does hot water melt ice?

http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-fut062508.php

Could this incident be the reason for Julienne Stroeve's ice records posted in April?

http://nsidc.org/news/press/20070430_StroeveGRL.html

I think I shall email for her and Roger Black for their opinions.

Regards,

Perry