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Frosty, the atomic clock returns to its original position and the time is different, so it obviously does apply to the round trip, you don't have to go off into the distance and stay there.

 

Here's a really odd ball way to look at it that also incorporated a theory known as the arrow of time

how about if you think of time as being a direction. The arrow of time concept. We are in two cars one following the other. If time is moving west and we are both on a highway also moving west but then one of us exit onto a road going southwest at a 45° angle then all of a sudden one of use isn't moving towards time a the same rate. When look over at the other car I see them falling behind my time. Assuming I'm not the guy who turned off the highway. Because although they might be moving at the same speed as I am they aren't moving in the direction of time.

They can also still see me and to them they are looking into the future, so every element of time can be observed at once, past present and future. And again Time is nonlinear just as the atomic clock experiments proved going as far back as the 50s

Godel described the first closed time like loops in his famous paper Godel's universe of 1949 but he used pure mathematics to do it. Later on it was proven experimentally.

The whole issue is kinda a pet subject of mine so I always try and keep up with the latest on this line of research

 

If it were possible to change time we would be visited by time tourists.

I kinda agree with Watson that time is now and a clock is something we invented to see what time to do things on a routine and to co-ordinate a rendezvous with others.

Even travel at the speed of light does not stop time the people are still moving --its just the light that has stopped and to the traveler it appears that way.

 

Oh and Mr Watson
I'm not talking about time travel, I'm just defining the experience of time. Past present and future might be experienced universally because they are shown to be existing simultaneously. It is entirely possible that we are simply adrift in motion which is evident through the observation of time. Time itself may not have a specific destination in mind in regards to a beginning or an end

another goofy theory thats come up is the multiverse, parallel universes, but I'd have to go read up on that one before I could even begin to explain it. Its a mater of probabilities though and considering that our universes basic fabric appears to be a "something" then it stands to reason that if the void it sits within is not itself devoid of other universes. Ones that most likely have physical properties that parallel our own. If thats true then its entirely probably that an infinite number of universes exist in which case the probability of there being a parallel universe becomes 1

There's some issues with the red shift and a few other serious problems with the bang theory but all in all its the best we've got. And thats not saying much. So if we look past the idea that nothing exploded and became everything theory we end up with a pulsating universe with a void. And what are the chances that if there's one pulsating universe. Or if there's a point at which mater is injected into the void, that there isn't another, and another, and on and on.

 

Frosty
time isn't a mater of now as much as its a mater of the change in now.

If all things were stationary, would there be any time ?

 

Time, like space, is just a relation.
(No, not your grandad, Frosty).

 

Time is an oddball, no one really has a very good handle on it, but from what can be observed so far, its not linear and its not consistent.

 

Time and our perception of it is surely mysterious. "My whole life flashed before my eyes in seconds "....... This has almost entered the language as a cliche, I have heard it from people at first hand and probably thought they were just parroting it( having seen it in movies and documentaries) to embellish a tale of terror. But there is just too much reportage of this phenomenon to dismiss it as dramatic licence. And it is sheer terror, the absolute belief that you are about to lose your life ( but obviously don't), that can precipitate it. I was intrigued watching a doco about the WWII submarine war, to hear a report from a German submariner who was the only man to survive a sunken U-boat sitting on the bottom in a couple hundred feet of water. He managed to open a loading hatch for torpedoes and reach the surface. He was adamant that he had relived his entire life in those few seconds, as he made his dramatic escape ! No, not bits and pieces, and highlights and milestones, but every single damn thing that ever happened to him ! It seems incredible, but I have a very real sense that there is something very important for our understanding of reality, and particularly Time and our perception of it, in these strange happenings. What to make of it ?

 

I believe I have an explanation for that but its incomplete, so I hesitate to get to deep into it. I'd like to write a paper on it if I ever get it down mathematically, so far over the last few years I'm still working out the references. But it looks like its a pretty good explanation.

 

How can you trust a brain starved of oxygen, "I saw a bright light" yeah you will do when there is no blood pressure. Tunnel vision , stars , ghosts images all from the brain.

 

And I've heard "There's nothing there" reported many times too.
(Former media magnate Kerry Packer added some swear words for emphasis a few years ago.)
Many people ignore those reports because they don't square with their
expectations of a fairy land after death.

 

But.......there is no suggestion that his heart had stopped or circulation to the brain was interrupted in the example given, just absolute terror. There are many such reports, and they don't involve oxygen starvation, it is impossible to imagine how you can relive every detail of a long life in seconds, but that is what they keep saying.

 

The heart does not need to stop --you can get light headed just standing up quickly.

If he had took a big breath he could be over loaded with oxygen and then rising to the surface quickly who knows what the hell was going on. The point is we all need to keep our brains in check they can realy screw you up and make you belive all sorts of crap..

Just eat the wrong mushroom or a dodgy clam and see what happens.

I believe we should all monitor our brains and what we tell it and how we process the information it spews out by the second. Its just a machine and it need maintenance like every thing else, even understanding its own little inefficiencies or idiosyncraticies like you would your knees or your back.

We do but we should not let the brain in control-- not without carefull consideration.

Take note murderers and rapists child molestors and people of similar ilk.

 

Literature and communication are a bit like a time machine and take you back to the old days. http://www.richardsimpkin.com.au/Australian-Legends/Australian-Legends.htm

 

Saying "my whole life flashed before me" doesn't mean a replay of 60 years
squeezed into a few seconds. You can't really be that gullible.