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Old 12-20-2011, 01:11 AM
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I'm sorry you got hurt and we all do things later we wish we had done differently. I hope not seeing a doctor isn't one of them. If I can offer an alternative maybe more palatable? Veteranarians study the human body as well as animals. Veteranarian schools know that vets frequently are the only person resembling a MD doctor for 100s of miles. so trains them to treat human injury and illness as well.
would you consider letting a vet look at you? He'd tell you if you needed more serious attention. Also he can xray you, tape you, and prescribe pain medication. Since he deals with outdoorsmen, ranchers, farmers, all the time, probably be more sympathetic to you wanting to work even while injured. And he isn't worried about his malpractice insurance and insist you be safe to protect him. Besides, vets are cheaper.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:16 AM
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I'm sorry you got hurt and we all do things later we wish we had done differently. I hope not seeing a doctor isn't one of them. If I can offer an alternative maybe more palatable? Veteranarians study the human body as well as animals. Veteranarian schools know that vets frequently are the only person resembling a MD doctor for 100s of miles. so trains them to treat human injury and illness as well.
would you consider letting a vet look at you? He'd tell you if you needed more serious attention. Also he can xray you, tape you, and prescribe pain medication. Since he deals with outdoorsmen, ranchers, farmers, all the time, probably be more sympathetic to you wanting to work even while injured. And he isn't worried about his malpractice insurance and insist you be safe to protect him. Besides, vets are cheaper.
I was a wrestler in high school and college, and did farm work in the summers. I had my share of bar fights when younger and dumber, and I worked in construction for years. I'm pretty much in tune with my body, when it starts telling me what I did to it. Right now it's saying, "you dumb SOB. You're gonna be sore for a while, but there's no permanent damage."

I also have pretty good medical insurance, for once in my life. If I think it's necessary, I can cheerfully show up at my Dr.'s office or a walk-in clinic and just say I did it at home. But I appreciate the practical advice.

When I was growing up, a friend of mine came from a hard-core horse family. And his mother was a whiz at taking care of kids; she said they were easier to doctor than horses. Among other things, if you got a nasty cut or rip and didn't feel like explaining it to your parents, she'd quietly clean it and sew you up. No anesthesia of course, but you can't have everything.

edit: my wife had a pet store for seven years. When we need antibiotics, she buys the penicillin that's normally sold for aquarium fish; it works just fine.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:30 AM
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my mom always kept a pint jar of penicillin in the fridge. Bought at feed store. The hypos she kept hidden. we got our antibiotic injections from Dr. Mom
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:42 AM
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We were constructing an open roadstead 4 berth cruise ship pier at a carribean island. I was master of the tug that shifted the crane barges and towed material barges to the site and debris away.
After a years work, we were tidying up loose ends and cleaning up.
The project EPA agent(our project her only job) showed up at the office with a nightmare. She'd had a bad dream that the cars and trucks in the parking lots would dribble oil and the rains would wash it into the sea.
She wanted us to tear out the two new parking lots and the recently planted, terraced park between them that visually screened them. She wanted the entire shoreside terminus og the pier site regraded, so that in sloped inland and she wanted drains connected to carry the run-off into cities storm drains.
Definitely a nightmare, for project manager. He explained that at completion of the project was an innappropriate time to raise such concerns. Pointed out that for a whole year she was content to work 15 minutes a day, collecting 2 water samples daily from site. Didn't she realize alterations she proposed would add months and $millions to project? Most of all, was she a complete idiot? The city storm drains dumped directly into the ocean. Her proposal accomplished nothing.
She called washington. Washington called corporate head office. We tore everything out and rebuilt to EPA agents specs.
Her plan was so idiotic, I can only speculate her real agenda was get a fat envelope passed under the table to her. But, another explanation is, the eco-nut fringe is comprised of a high proportion of lunatics.
Who knows?
It's all about hurting business and destroying the U.S. economy. Any way that can be found to waste American dollars will be found.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:44 AM
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I'm in Cullman AL.
It's just about 46 here. feels like 26 to me though.
I went back to AK last summer to help drill a water well way out in the bush.
I discovered the Temps are too low now. I could never go back.
Another one of life's big heartbreaks.
Its the coumadin in Cullman that chills you.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:52 AM
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Fat envolopes?

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We were constructing an open roadstead 4 berth cruise ship pier at a carribean island. I was master of the tug that shifted the crane barges and towed material barges to the site and debris away.
After a years work, we were tidying up loose ends and cleaning up.
The project EPA agent(our project her only job) showed up at the office with a nightmare. She'd had a bad dream that the cars and trucks in the parking lots would dribble oil and the rains would wash it into the sea.
She wanted us to tear out the two new parking lots and the recently planted, terraced park between them that visually screened them. She wanted the entire shoreside terminus og the pier site regraded, so that in sloped inland and she wanted drains connected to carry the run-off into cities storm drains.
Definitely a nightmare, for project manager. He explained that at completion of the project was an innappropriate time to raise such concerns. Pointed out that for a whole year she was content to work 15 minutes a day, collecting 2 water samples daily from site. Didn't she realize alterations she proposed would add months and $millions to project? Most of all, was she a complete idiot? The city storm drains dumped directly into the ocean. Her proposal accomplished nothing.
She called washington. Washington called corporate head office. We tore everything out and rebuilt to EPA agents specs.
Her plan was so idiotic, I can only speculate her real agenda was get a fat envelope passed under the table to her. But, another explanation is, the eco-nut fringe is comprised of a high proportion of lunatics.
Who knows?
Here in Manchester uk they are installing a tram sytem,a multi million pound contract,it goes from nowhere to nowhere,it has a thriving town at one end and the city at the other.With the high prices of goods,and the expensive fares I doubt it will get much use.The roads have been completely ignored and in a lot of places they are like motocross tracks.A new road was constructed that passes thro' a semi industial area,the "Eco maniacs"have put up at least ten bronze statues along its route.A lot of the revenue is collected from carparks and the ensueing fines if you fail to pay,and the local council tax paid by the public.It does make you wonder about those "Fat envolopes"
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:56 AM
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I wish pm had given her an envelope. And that I knew when and where. I'd have mugged her and took the money and given it to a childrens home or a veterans center. But she'd not enjoyed a cent of it, and the company would have survived. She destroyed the company they lost so much on that stupid revamp
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:58 AM
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I wish pm had given her an envelope. And that I knew when and where. I'd have mugged her and took the money and given it to a childrens home or a veterans center. But she'd not enjoyed a cent of it, and the company would have survived. She destroyed the company they lost so much on that stupid revamp
That was her goal.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:02 AM
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I never considered that as an agenda. You may be right. She accomplished that. But! Thats even more stupid than her drainage scheme. What possible reason would she have to destroy the company?
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:14 AM
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I never considered that as an agenda. You may be right. She accomplished that. But! Thats even more stupid than her drainage scheme. What possible reason would she have to destroy the company?
I believe that people like her do it for no more than to make an impression,or a pat on the back,they put aside the catostrophic results for another step up the ladder.Unfortunately its not them that suffer the consequencies.They may even get a "Fat envolope"
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:17 AM
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well, I hope she got kicked out of EPA. I can' or don"t want to believe everybody in EPA is stupid or crooked.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:38 AM
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I never considered that as an agenda. You may be right. She accomplished that. But! Thats even more stupid than her drainage scheme. What possible reason would she have to destroy the company?
They are trying to take down the whole country one company at a time. Remember the clunker buy-back and the destruction of the used-parts market? Remember how the automobile dealers that got closed were the ones who donated to the Republican rather than the Democrat party?

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/200...alers-or-what/

I don't intend to highjack my own thread but there are a lot of tall tales being told by the dems in power.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:47 AM
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I'm partyless. Most frequently I vote republican. I did vote for Jimmy Carter and Obama. Regret both. Two worst presidents ever.
The libertarian party isn't for me, though we preach alike.
I'd like to see a restoration party. Return the federal government to pre-16th amendment and make it obey the constitution. Nothing in the constitution permits the shenanigans of our present fed. Politicians know it too. Bill Clinton tried twice to convene a constitution comittee to re-write it to match and justify the existing government. Thank God we stopped him.
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It wasn't just republicans who were targeted but dealers who donated to Obama's opponents in the primaries, too.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:09 AM
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We got to get him out before he bankrupts us. I suggest the next president send Obama a bill for the entire debt he created.
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