Relativity speaking

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  1. Rurudyne
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    Par, two things...

    First I'm sure there's plenty of History fans who can tell you all about ancient aliens having planned WW2. :p

    Second, though inherently hampered by the French general staff and politicians, the French soldiers and field officers, once they realized the kind of war they were in, held on tenaciously to let what could be evacuated from Dunkirk be evacuated. No faulting them.

    France paid a heavy price for the Sitskrieg.
     
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    Yes, it is. The world seems to be devolving right before our eyes. It won't be the meek that will inherit the earth, but the maroons. Unless they destroy it first.

    I suppose it's nature at work though.

     
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    I'm going to go with that, Newton's first law of motion, the law of inertia. "A body at rest tends to stay at rest, a body in motion tends to stay in motion." Unless a second law wind or something intercedes, conservation of energy keeps everything moving along.

    I know all about that 'body at rest' stuff. Speaking of which, according to the third law, if everyone on Earth faced their car West and floored it, it's possible the Earth would rotate faster and gravity would diminish. I'm thinking that might be an easier way to lose 30-40 lbs, compared to exercise and diet. ?
     
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    Ah, but wouldn't suddenly speeding up the earth like that absorb energy from the atmosphere and induce a new ice age? :p
     
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    I would think it would be burning fuel and putting more CO2 in the air, making it warmer. Perhaps there would be a balancing point, heat vs cold. I'd be willing to do my part and sacrifice and be happy with a 20 lb weight loss for now.
     
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    And as a bonus for us boating types, a drop in gravity would lead to all sorts of new coastal areas to explore. :)
     
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    And probably better fuel efficiency also. This sounds like a win win win situation. Global warming balanced, we all lose weight, we have a bigger world to explore while saving money on fuel...but wait, there's more...we'd have more days in the year to do it in!
     
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    Many went to Russia, where they were much better suited to the low-altitude interception role (attacking Stukas and their escort fighters) needed there, than the high-altitude requirements of other theatres. It is interesting that early P-47 Thunderbolts were supplied to the Russians for evaluation, but they preferred aircraft like the Airacobra P-39. Germany lost the best chance of winning the war in '41 ( maybe 50% chance), and its chances of winning dropped to virtually none, by mid 1944. But they were still a live chance in 1942 and into 1943, although it may look like it was all inevitable from the start, to some. Like Japan, which even at the peak of the Pacific war had more than half its forces bogged down in China, the Germans succumbed to a war of attrition they could not hope to win, they were like a boxer needing a knockout win, they were not going to go the full distance to win on points. They could not land that punch in 1941, though to much of the world, it seemed they would. I remember talking to an veteran of the Australian forces that were fighting in the Middle East in 1941, and he and his comrades thought Russia certain to go under, which would have had dire consequences for their campaign.
     
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    The French certainly suffered very heavy casualties in a short space of time, the popular conception that they just hoisted the white flag is terribly unfair. One failure that could have been avoided, was refusing to send German prisoners to England, but just imprisoning them in France, where they were soon back in harness.
     
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    You know, I've often thought that it would be something to have pictures of whatever French or English intelligence officer's reaction was post war to learning just how few troops the Germans had on the Western front during the Sitskrieg and also of Japanese planners learning that was ALL the oil west of the west coast that they didn't bother to bomb (with just one bomb...) ... to have those photos of their expressions upon learning those things and compare them.
     
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    I suppose no-one wanted to be the one who re-started the horrors of the Western Front of 1914-18, which was still fresh in the memory, and hoping it could all be avoided, still. But they mis-read Mr Hitler and his demonic mania. And yes, the Japanese were very careless in sparing those fuel tanks, they deserved punishment for such an amateurish oversight !
     
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    RE punishment: one might say they got it. A lot of it.

    Now that I think about it, since this was about resources to them, I wonder if the "smart play" wouldn't have been to blow up the fuel and drydocks and leave the fleet more or less unmolested? Follow with a blockade. With only the reserves in their tanks the fleet would have had a hard time securing supply routes from the mainland for some time. Operations would have been very difficult at any range until then.
     
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    Why wait for gravity to abate you could do shallow water cruising now and go anywhere you want and you do not need a pilots license.
     
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    ^
    It sounds like they have become infected with a common human disease of the brain. There are various strains and all humans are exposed, usually from infancy and before rational thought processes develop. It is basically an insidious propaganda program developed from a crumbling series of discarded false primeval beliefs and a baffling collection of condensed, heavily edited writings that can be vaporously interpreted whichever way is most appropriate, depending on what outcome is desired or what challenges are voiced in opposition. As cited above, contracting and living with this disease can alter one's perspective on life, and one's personality, and can be extremely dangerous to all other humans whether similarly infected or not.
     
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