The Price of Ethanol

[Ike]

Personally I like horses too, but I haven't ridden one since I was about 5 (good God was I ever really 5???) And yes they produce a great fertilizer but think for a minute. A large city, millions of people, 100 of thousands of horses. That's also a lot of horse sh.. Sure they can sell it for fertilizer. NY just piled it on what is now Rikers Island. Of course, now it has a prison on it.
Still, that's a lot of manure to dispose of.

So, horses may not be the ultimate solution in the city. I like what some cities have done. Ban cars in the downtown area, have free electric buses to move people in the city center.

Anyway I noticed that gas prices dropped a couple of cents over the last few days. Maybe all my bitching did some good. NOT!

[Frosty]

It is true. At the turn of the 20th century there was a lot of horses in New York and London , not to mention other big European cities.

Horse **** = methane= ozone depletion???

What about Dinasours a million years ago??

Bit more than the domestic refrigerator contents,--which on mine is 475 mg of r22. That is less than a fart to a Teranasorous. I would suggest possibly 1/2 a fart.

If a teranasorous farted 15 times a day thats 30 refrigerator contents.

A mere million teranasorous's farts would be the equivelent of 30,000,000 refrigerator contents per day. One single day the entire worlds refrigerators.

Further more a million is grostly under estimated and there would be other animals farting too. Phew!!!

[Pericles]

Bring back 'orses say I. There'll be jobs for street urchins again.

http://www.victorianweb.org/periodicals/punch/17.html

http://www.victorianlondon.org/publi...s/lifein-9.htm

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Pericles

[Pericles]

Where I live in Middlesex was, in the 19th century, given over to farms growing hay and other feeds for London's horses. Trains carried the horse dung at night to be spread on the fields and returned with hay etc, during the day. It was a large and important service.

One other fact; there are more horses in the UK now than there were when they were used for transport. The dung is dropped elsewhere now.

Pericles

[Frosty]

[quote=Pericles;
One other fact; there are more horses in the UK now than there were when they were used for transport. Pericles[/QUOTE]

Im not sure about that one. How can that be when at one time they were used for everything, delivering milk, beer,commercial transport, farms and domestic transport. Today a horse is generaly for rich kids, or racing which has always existed.

[Pericles]

Frosty,

According to http://www.bhic.co.uk/about/pressarchive/news.php?4 the numbers of horses in UK has exceeded 1.3 million (2006). The numbers used for TRANSPORT in Victorian Britain would be about half the total numbers shown on page 60 of THE AGRICULTURAL HISTORY REVIEW. http://www.bahs.org.uk/43n1a4.pdf

Breeding stock, farming, exports and warfare would account for the others, although at the bottom of page 56 there is the comment.

"While it seemed that the hunter-type horse
from Britain or Ireland was available in
reasonable numbers (provided French purchasers
stayed out of the market), witnesses
were virtually unanimous in the view that
the country would be hard-put to raise
2500 cavalry and 5000 artillery horses of
acceptable quality in the course of six
months, and even then many of these
would have to be acquired abroad, with
all the attendant risks, s~"

I know that intuitively it seems the other way round, but with the expansion of steam railways in Victorian England, hardly a village was more than 10 miles from a station.

BTW, I have nothing to do with horses.

Regards,

Pericles

[Bergalia]

Originally Posted by Pericles

...BTW, I have nothing to do with horses.
Pericles

And that answers Lubber's lament. Although having 'little to do with horses' - I am currently 'saddled' with a brace of teenage daughters....

Daughters in Australia 'must' have horses. Dad gets to shovel the ****... And so to repeat yet again Ned Kelly's final gasp..."Such is life..."

[Frosty]

What did I tell yer ---rich peoples kids!!!

[Bergalia]

Originally Posted by Frosty

What did I tell yer ---rich peoples kids!!!

Hush now Frosty - we've not told them they were adopted....

[mydauphin]

Kill all the horses ... They cause global warning... I hate horses after one threw me 15 feet in air (or at least it felt that way). Luckily, it threw me against fence... I rather have a boat, if it is sinking - I can always jump off

[Bergalia]

What's to stop you jumping off a sinking horse ?

[Ike]

so what has all this horse---- got to do with the price of ethanol?

[safewalrus]

Maybe you need a lot of ethanol to burn a pile of horse ****? There again burning it would do away with it's usefullness as manure!

[safewalrus]

Oh and Ike the best way to deal with the cities in my book in to bomb them (with ethanol as an added incendiary device?)

[Frosty]

Its rare to be up to your knees in Horse **** but very common these days to be up to your neck in Bull ****.