Our Oceans are Under Attack

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  1. ImaginaryNumber
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    Major Investors Worried About Companies' Readiness For Climate Change | Forbes
     
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    Since there has been no warming for almost 20 years now due to higher CO2 levels, what will it take to convince people there is no warming due to higher CO2 levels?
    My guess is another 20 years of no warming wont make them change their mind.

    Watch them switch from global warming due to CO2 to global cooling due to CO2 as the planet shows a cooling trend.
     
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    One-child policy


    The family planning policy, known as the one-child policy in the West[1] is a population control policy of the People's Republic of China. The term "one-child" is a misnomer, as the policy allows many exceptions and ethnic minorities are exempt. In 2007, 35.9% of China's population was subject to the one-child restriction.[2] The policy is enforced at the provincial level through fines that are imposed based on the income of the family and other factors. "Population and Family Planning Commissions" (计划生育委员会) exist at every level of government to raise awareness and carry out registration and inspection work.[3]

    The policy was introduced in 1979 to alleviate social, economic, and environmental problems in China.[4] Demographers estimate that the policy averted at least 200 million births between 1979 and 2009.[5] A 2008 survey undertaken by the Pew Research Center reported that 76% of the Chinese population supports the policy;[6] however, it is controversial outside China for many reasons, including accusations of human rights abuses in the implementation of the policy, as well as concerns about negative social consequences.[7]

    The colours are child per family
     

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    Funnily enough, that's more or less what I've been saying for years, WRT power generation options. The *only* one we have that actually works is nuclear, and all the Generation 1 & (arguably) Gen 2 plants have serious issues themselves. The 3rd generation designs seem to have a lot more of the issues covered.

    However I take issue with the claim that 350 ppm is the 'safe' place to be WRT CO2 concentration. The world has had a lot more than that in the past and it was a warm, wet, lush place with abundant plant growth. Anyone with knowledge of geography, geology or biology is aware of this. 1500 ppm seems to be the sweet spot for maximal plant growth efficiency. CO2 alone cannot possibly do what the doomsayers claim, because there is no evidence that it ever has in the past and plenty of evidence that higher CO2 is a good thing for plants. I'll allow that a rapid rate of change in CO2 levels could have some bad effects, because we don't have data on that - yet. But then, nor do the doomsayers......

    I think burning fossil fuels for power generation is stupid and very 19thC to mid 20C technology, but there are a lot worse things - like wind power. PV power, somewhat to my surprise, has become actually useful. Now if we can get a real breakthrough in storage systems, that would be really interesting.

    Meanwhile I'll just keep using my 415V 3 phase hydropower that the current generations in favour of green power wouldn't let us build, nowadays......

    PDW
     
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    The entire "CO2 is bad" scheme is a socialist political power grab.
     
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    Those are two dour sourpusses if ever I saw one.
     
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    Scientists explain why you won’t be changing the minds of any climate deniers this Thanksgiving

    All this, and there’s a major storm headed for the East Coast just when families are gathering together for Thanksgiving. Even armed with the science (and assuming you make it home), it seems unlikely that you’re going to be able to convince those Fox News-watching relatives of yours (everyone’s got at least one)

    Think that living through superstorms, heat waves or lake effect blizzards is enough to convince people that we’re undergoing a period of unprecedented climate change? Think again, say researchers at Michigan State. A new study, published in the journal Nature Climate Change, takes up the question of whether extreme weather can change minds where the science doesn’t, and basically comes up empty.
    The study focuses on winter 2012, which was the fourth-warmest winter since at least 1895 — meaning it was one of the warmest in the subjects’ living memory. For the most part, people seemed aware that something was off: analyzing data from a March 2012 Gallup poll, the researchers found that respondents acknowledged that the winter felt warmer than usual. The more unusual the weather, the more more likely they were to notice.
    Yet only 35 percent of people attributed those warmer-than-usual temperatures to global warming. As you might expect, it all came down to politics: “The more respondents perceive scientific agreement on climate change and the more they believe in the current onset, human cause, threat and seriousness of global warming,” the study found, “the more likely they report warmer local winter temperatures to be due mainly to global warming rather than normal yearly variation.”
    As lead author Aaron McCright put it, ”Many people already had their minds made up about global warming and this extreme weather was not going to change that.”

    http://www.salon.com/2014/11/25/sci...nds_of_any_climate_deniers_this_thanksgiving/
     
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    Happy Thanksgiving Day!
     

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    Yes, Praise the Lord, Happy thanksgiving day to all. That is what thanksgiving is all about, the Creator who is Christ providing for people on this slowly decaying and someday to be reworked new again earth.
     
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