Our Oceans are Under Attack

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  1. Yobarnacle
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    .. :p
     
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    Google Cuts Ties With Conservative Group Over Climate-Change Stance | TIMES-RECORD
     
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    We still have a ways to go to beat the record. Most of the AGW skeptics have been convinced, or at least are not posting much. But there are still a few hard-core deniers left...:rolleyes:

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    E.P.A. Unveils Second Phase of Plan to Reverse Great Lakes Damage | NEW YORK TIMES
     
  5. AndySGray
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    I remember we had an 'energy crisis' 3 or 4 decades ago and one of the solutions offered was actually algae.

    They had a diesel motor with a generator running only on dried pulverised algae - the problem was we don't have carburettors or injectors capable of running on powders hence a constant speed generator with the algae added through the air intake.

    once people stop seeing pollution and see fuel, they'll be skimming it off by the ton.
     
  6. SamSam
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    You need to quit giving short term weather answers to long term climate questions. I'm not sure if anybody is talking about the weather on this thread.

    I also don't understand what all the travel info about coastlines of Britain and the Great Loop have to do with the thread.
     
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    I've known about the Great Lakes treaties since the '80s.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_Treaty

    Talk about reality, since when has such a treaty stood up to money? Ask 'Native Americans' about that.

    In the future, water will be just as desirable as oil is now. Has anything ever stopped the US from getting oil?
     
  8. Leo Lazauskas
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    Fresh water has been a background issue for quite a while in some regions.
    The long-running dispute over Kashmir is one case. It's a complex situation, but control over water is a major issue.
    Egypt announced many years ago that it would react militarily to any attempt to dam the Nile upstream.
    Israel has been accused and caught many times over draining aquifers from underneath their border.
     
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    Wait 'til you see what the weather will be like when an ice cap covers NYC. :D

    http://harpers.org/archive/1958/09/the-coming-ice-age/
    "As Ewing and Donn read the evidence, an Ice Age will result from a slow warming and rising of the ocean that is now taking place. They believe that this ocean flood — which may submerge large coastal areas of the eastern United States and western Europe — is going to melt the ice sheet which has covered the Arctic Ocean through all recorded history. Calculations based on the independent observations of other scientists indicate this melting could begin, within roughly one hundred years." So by 2058AD Delaware will be a rain forest.
     
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    SamSam
    You ARE a pirate at heart, aren't you!
    If somebody chooses to live in a desert, that's a personal choice carrying a personal responsibility to find sufficient water FOR THEMSELF!
    Doesn't include any right to demand or steal anybody else's water.
    Canada and US relations have been touchy from time to time, but mostly we are good friends.
    USA has precious few GOOD friends in the world. Don't throw any away!
    America going to war over water for the southwest? Against whom?
    Southwest particularly southern California (apparently the REAL America, the rest of us just serfs and victims) is over populated and over stressing resources.
    Solution isn't encouraging MORE population. Solution is allow natural consequences and WANT to redistribute that over population.
    Reduced population reduces stress on resources.
    If they get thirsty enough, people will relocate.
    The rest of us have ZERO responsibility to maintain or support them in their personal foolishness.

    What ever happened to the iceberg towing schemes?

    As to the circumnavigation info cluttering up your thread?
    Gee, I'm sowwy. I was under dewusion this forum was about boat design and boating.
    AGW pre-empts everything.
     
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    "Our Oceans are Under Attack", then they rise, then the cities attacking them drown because oceans rose. Ocean wins, as always. :p
     
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    Here in Norfolk Va and Eastern Shore and some Chesapeake Bay islands, the news is all about how the ocean is rising, and they talk about global warming as one of the reasons, But a lot more is the truth that the land is subsiding-sinking, not that the oceans are rising causing the land to flood. They do mention that the land is sinking in these areas, but the media focus is a lot more heavy on ocean rise due to global warming as the cause.
    And then poor ignorant folk believe what they read and see on TV.

    So in a sense sure the ocean is rising because the land is sinking into the ocean.
     
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    AGWers are opportunists. ANY perceived consequence they can glom onto, they assert is evidence their theory, hence their CURE, socio/political change, is not only correct and necessary, but urgent.

    They've been claiming urgency for SO LONG! LOL.
     
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    You are correct that the land around the southern end of the Chesapeake Bay is subsiding due to the effects of a huge bolide that hit the area some 35 million years ago. The resulting crater was as large as the state of Rhode Island, and as deep as the Grand Canyon. The sediments that have washed into the crater are not as well compacted as the surrounding rocks, so settling is still occurring. That being said, and as posted earlier, sea levels are rising globally, and the rate of rise is increasing.

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