Our Oceans are Under Attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMYdalClU

Species can develop into vermin if introduced into regions where they find favorable living conditions, and if they face few or no natural enemies there.
The term vermin is also applied to larger species, “elephant’s, dolphins” typically because they consume resources humans consider theirs.
Humans breed rapidly, have no natural predator, create enormous waste and rubbish wherever they go, destroy the land, river, seas and atmosphere, inflict suffering and cruelty on the animals including their own species “war” weapons of destruction..

 

Man is very aggressive. No argument. Man is a social creature and tends to clump into communities. Agreed.
Has no natural predators? Can't agree. We have reduced the numbers of large predators that threaten us, like lions, tigers, alligators, bears, sharks, ect. But one on one encounters still show us vulnerable unless we are armed.
And the small predators, bacteria, virus ect, still kill millions.
Vermin is a term of worthlessness, deserving of eradication. In war, the enemy is dehumanized and propaganda depicts the enemy as unworthy to live. Makes it justice to kill them.
Is that your intent?
Or are you contending "our oceans are under attack" is by human beings, and the oceans and marine life are more important and have more rights to exist than mankind? That man isn't indigenous to this planet, but an invader?
Your cartoon post is misanthropic and not cute or accurate!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oTCA9V3eNs

 

That's an ugly film. It shows the crimes of agri-business, not farming or ranching. Same societal changes created the warrens of cities created agri-business to feed the cities.
I'm a country boy and seaman and have always lived close to nature with respect.
As to being a vegetarian, a smile in a mirror will put the lie to that. Your eyes face forward and you have fangs. You and all men are predators. Designed to hunt and eat meat. it's a mistake to pretend you are something you are not.
Yes we are omnivores, eat everything, and still predators.

 

Break up agri-business farms and restore the family farm agrarian society? aye, in favor. Drive out the city dwellers and level the cities. Only let the people work and live in small towns and farms? Aye, in favor.
How do you plan to accomplish this revolution in society?

 

Advocating the non-exploitation of animals for reasons of compassion, and for the spiritual well being of the humans, God "love" wants us to have loving, compassionate, and peacemaking spirit.
He wants us to have a soft heart, for example, for a person to kill and eat an animal it requires them to harden their heart so that they no longer have empathy for the pain and suffering of the animal, the more a person engages in such activity, or hires someone else to do the killing for them, the harder their heart becomes.

 

I understand your point of view and truly appreciate your tender heart.
It is indeed pleasant to read in your post, evidence of a gentle soul.
Your fellow humans need your compassion also.

 

A touching reconciliation of ideas ! Congratulations gentlemen ! Yo is right about the teeth, and you could add to that the ability to produce enzymes to digest meat. But humans are more plant eaters by design, and most still subsist mainly that way.

 

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Yo is right about the teeth,


The truth is our so-called "canine teeth" are canine in name only. Humans' "canine teeth" are unlike the canine teeth of actual canines, which are really long and really pointed. Our teeth are absolutely not like theirs. In fact, other vegetarian animals (like gorillas, horses, and hippos) possess the same so-called "canine" teeth, which are often used for defensive purposes rather than for eating. Check out the chimpanzee, and consider that chimps' diets are up to 99% vegetarian (and what litle non-vegetarian food they eat usually isn't meat, it's termites). And remember that we're more similar to chimps than to any other animal.

John A. McDougall, M.D., has a good take on this:

Our dentition evolved for processing starches, fruits, and vegetables, not tearing and masticating flesh. Our oft-cited "canine" teeth are not at all comparable to the sharp teeth of true carnivores. I lecture to over 10,000 dentists, dental hygienists, and oral specialists every year, and I always ask them to show me the “canine” teeth in a person’s mouth – those that resemble a cat’s or dog’s teeth – I am still waiting to be shown the first example of a sharply pointed canine tooth.

If you have any doubt of the truth of this observation then go look in the mirror right now – you may have learned to call your 4 corner front teeth, “canine teeth” – but in no way do they resemble the sharp, jagged, blades of a true carnivore – your corner teeth are short, blunted, and flat on top (or slightly rounded at most). Nor do they ever function in the manner of true canine teeth. Have you ever observed someone purposely favoring these teeth while tearing off a piece of steak or chewing it? Nor have I. The lower jaw of a meat-eating animal has very little side-to-side motion – it is fixed to open and close, which adds strength and stability to its powerful bite. Like other plant-eating animals our jaw can move forwards and backwards, and side-to-side, as well as open and close, for biting off pieces of plant matter, and then grinding them into smaller pieces with our flat molars.

I love the canine argument because the people who make it place so much importance on it, insisting that humans having canines immediately wins the whole argument, all by itself, case closed! But when they discover that they were wrong, then suddenly the canine issue really wasn't so important to them after all, and they simply move on to their next misconception, as though their previous argument never happened. That really lays their motivations bare: They were never really interested in evaluating the evidence, they were only interested in being right. But really, if someone thinks that canine teeth are the be-all and end-all of the herbivore vs. omnivore debate, then when they find out that they're wrong about teeth, that ought to tell them something. But does it ever? Nope. If you want an evidence of bias, there you have it.

 

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You didn't cite your quote. I have for you, above.

Here are some meat SUBSTITUTE complete protein recipes for you.
http://greatist.com/health/complete-vegetarian-proteins

http://www.helpguide.org/life/healthy_diet_fats.htm
"Omega-3 fats are a type of essential fatty acid, meaning they are essential to health, but your body can’t make them. You can only get omega-3 fats from food.

The best sources are fatty fish such as salmon (especially wild-caught king and sockeye), herring, mackerel, anchovies, or sardines, or high-quality cold-water fish oil supplements. Canned albacore tuna and lake trout can also be good sources, depending on how the fish were raised and processed.

If you’re a vegetarian or you don’t like fish, you can still get your omega-3 fix by eating algae (which is high in DHA) or taking a fish oil or algae supplement. "


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If humans started to go vegetarian that would start the retreat of the oceans under attack for many reasons of common sense.
"I love the canine argument because the people who make it place so much importance on it, insisting that humans having canines immediately wins the whole argument, all by itself, case closed! But when they discover that they were wrong, then suddenly the canine issue really wasn't so important to them after all, and they simply move on to their next misconception, as though their previous argument never happened. That really lays their motivations bare: They were never really interested in evaluating the evidence, they were only interested in being right."

 

As CO2 emissions enter the ocean, they react with water and carbonate ions (minerals animals and coral use to build shells) to form hydronium (acid). The acid in the water lowers the pH of the water and has a whole domino effect on marine life, and human life.
In low pH water, animals can’t form shells and coral are bleached.
It also messes with the brain chemistry of animals.
People who’s livelihoods depend on catching marine life (crabs, oysters, etc.) are going to suffer greatly.
30 million of the world’s poorest people depend solely on coral reefs for survival, and 500 million people worldwide depend on coral reefs in some way.
Also, if you feel no connection to seafood, as the ocean warms and fills with more CO2 it will essentially “fill-up”, and not be able to absorb our emissions anymore.
That’s 22 million tons a day that won’t be taken care of.
Ocean acidification has raised the question of will we see the world’s sixth mass extinction.
That’s ocean acidification in a nutshell. So what does that have to do with vegetarianism?
Well, for obvious reasons, reducing CO2 emissions is the number one way to combat ocean acidification.
America is the number two producer of CO2, behind China, there are plenty of ways to reduce CO2, some more effective than others, but one lesser known way is through vegetarianism.
Vegetarians produce at least 3,000 less pounds of CO2 emissions each year.
In the scheme of things, yes that’s small.
Me being a vegetarian will never end ocean acidification, but, lots of people reducing the amount of meat they eat can have an effect.

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"Me being a vegetarian will never end ocean acidification, but, lots of people reducing the amount of meat they eat can have an effect."
Then eat what you choose and do what you think is ethical. Be aware that arguments that appeal to you, don't impress all others.
Man is the most adaptable of all of earth's creatures. Primitive cultures have flourished in the artic and deserts and tropics and on tiny scattered islands/groups so dependent upon the sea as it's not a stretch to say they lived upon the oceans.
Our survivability in harsh habitats is because we are omnivorous, including the ability to exist almost exclusively on a diet of meat where there are no veggies.
Your dentist vegetarian is as narrow in his opinions as are you. Both equally in error, because of the historical evidence we HAVE survived all over the planet.
Using our intellects we have also devised how t live in outer space and under the sea for extended periods.
I observe in man a greater hunger than food. A hunger to be free from dominion of others. Too often it's only been free to choose which tyrant to serve. But man is willing to kill and die for his choices and beliefs.
We can tame herbivores (cattle, sheep, horses) very easily. We can and do tame carnivores with more difficulty but a greater bond once accomplished. The animals do not tame each other.
It takes a superior creature to tame a lesser creature. Man cannot tame man. He will rise up and eat you, if you try! Don't fear me. I am tame. A superior being is my Master. Changing Masters isn't an option. Trying to make us herbivores won't enable taming us.

We can solve our problems with our intellects. Working together, is best. mutual respect is the first step, then trust, ect, ect for collaboration to function.

 

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We are dedicated to cruelty-free living through a vegetarian/vegan lifestyle according to Judeo-Christian ethics. Unconditional love and compassion is the foundation of our peaceful means of accomplishing this goal for all of God's creatures, whether human or otherwise.

God's original intent was that there would be no death, and that only plants and the fruit of the trees were to be the food of all of God's created beings (Gen. 1:29-30). Truly, what God originally created was heaven on earth. When the disciples asked Jesus how to pray, one of the first things He said to pray for was "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." (Matt. 6:10) If we believe God's Word, and truly pray in this manner, then we should work to achieve what we pray for. And most importantly, Jesus Christ is our final sacrifice. There is no longer any need for the further shedding of blood. Thus, our diet should be plant based, and we should strive to give all peoples and animals the God given rights they deserve, and in the process protect and restore our environment.

Yes, we may have our doctrinal differences, but we have our commonality in the Lord our God who made us all and gave us the insight and ability to see beyond death and promote life for all of God's creatures, both human and otherwise, even upon this earth. We need to work together in peace and harmony to achieve the good works which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them (Eph. 2:10).

Through unconditional love and compassion toward all of God's creation, we can change the world. In that day, all of God's creatures here below will once again live together in peace and harmony, "for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea." (Isaiah 11:9)