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  1. wardd
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    alaska under palin operated on royalties from the oil companies, sounds like communism to me, then she quit mid term to go on the lecture circuit and get rich
     
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    A rose by any other name ...
     
  3. Vulkyn
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    ok i thought this was a quote's post !!! Too much politics for me .....

    "Politics is man's greatest Evil yet his strongest tool for change" A wise man ..........
     
  4. thudpucker
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    PAR, none of what you say is "Documented" except in the CNN broadcasts of Political opines of the Democrats.

    The Conservatives have done well to halt the runaway spending of the Obama administration. He put us Trillions in debt, but hopefully we'll get some more seats in November and get the country back on track.

    I don't believe we will ever get America back to the Mfg superiority we held for so many years without some Integrity and Responsibility in Congress and the Senate.

    That wont happen until the American Voter takes responsibility on his own shoulders to Impeach the wrong doers, and elect Logical thinkers, not Lawyers, to put the needs of the Country first and the Party second.
     
  5. thudpucker
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    Wardd, surely you are not as ignorant as you portray yourself?
    Apparently you don't know anything at all about Palins term as governor?

    The Democrats put a spin on everything she did to make a smear. The Gossipers in the Liberal camps amplified all that Smear. Clear down to Fake Boobs. Jeez, how droll. What does any of that have to do with a very successful term as Governor?

    She explained why she quit. Did you not read that?

    "if you vote Democrat, please remember to flush the booth for the next guy!
     
  6. troy2000
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    1. When did conservatives start laying claim to Thomas Jefferson? He was the quintessential liberal of his day.

    2. Liberals in government are always doing evil things to interfere with business, aren't they? Like outlawing child labor, forcing factories to put guards on moving equipment, passing laws against selling contaminated food, banning drugs that kill instead of cure, pressuring manufacturers to sell safer cars, and other such reprehensible interference with free enterprise.

    3. You're definitely right when you say we don't move forward on conservative ideals. The essence of conservatism is resistance to change, and often a yearning to turn the clock backwards instead of forward, to some mythical better time and place. Which means, of course, that in the long run they always lose, because change comes anyway.

    4. Ummm....'Roosevelt stopped our trading with Japan at the onset of WWII'?!?!?! I believe it's customary to do that when you fight a war with another country.....and smart to do it ahead of time, when you know war is inevitable.

    5. You genuinely have no clue about labor issues, do you? The reality is that the productivity of the American worker has climbed steadily until he's become the most productive worker in the world, but his real income is declining instead of growing. In other words, employers are getting more and better work from him, and paying less for it in real dollars. It's complete bs to blame our economic problems on him.

    6. Actually, a lot of the poor have been voting for conservatives for a long time too, and they're still poor. They get sidetracked into red-meat wedge issues that conservative politicians feed them (abortions, gay rights, liberals want to take our guns & kill sick people, etc.), and forget to vote their own interests.

    7. And I repeat: you're definitely a modern conservative, because you're incapable of opening your mouth without ranting about everything in the world being the fault of liberals....

    add: would that be the Michael Dukakis who got smeared with the Willy Horton bs? And I hate to tell you this, but no one needs to smear Sarah Palin. It's sufficient to just tell the truth about someone who couldn't even handle being governor of a state with fewer people in it than the average medium-small city in the lower 48 States....
     
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    :p:p:p:p

    Because she found a higher calling: to go save the unwashed masses from themselves, by milking them out of their money on the lecture circuit and campaign trail?

    Here's her explanation: "Many just accept that lame-duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck and milk it. I'm not putting Alaska through that — I promised efficiencies and effectiveness. I love my job, and I love Alaska. It hurts to make this choice, but I am doing what's best for Alaska."

    So she's saying that being halfway through her term made her a lame-duck governor who was incapable of doing the job? What kind of sense does that make? By that reasoning, every politician in the country from the President down should be quitting halfway through their elected terms.
     
  8. SheetWise
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    This entire comment is so disconnected from reality that it's hard to comprehend -- but in either case, this isn't the proper forum to discuss it. There are some great forums on economics, and you apparently don't follow any of them. One statement I need to comment on. As far as Thomas Jefferson being a liberal, that would be "classical liberal" -- today known as a conservative. Today we have to distinguish the "old" term liberal and the "new" term liberal because the language was adopted and bastardized by discredited collectivists. There is much to read about that -- even in the condensed knowledge of Wikipedia.
     
  9. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    You know those pesky social advances, like due process under the law, the right to be considered more then 3/5th of a human being, keeping children out of factories, giving women the right to vote, freeing the slaves, the civil rights act, the clean air act, the ban on cruel and unusual punishment, unremunerated rights, minimum wage, unemployment insurance, social security, the freedom of information act, desegregation of the military, the public school system, the USPS, the break up of industry magnets at the turn of the last century (which we apparently need again). In short, the list is extensive and not one single concept or idea was forwarded or expounded upon by a conservative.

    If the conservatives had it their way, we'd still have 9 year olds working 14 hour shifts in sweat shops, women would still be considered chattel and we'd all have a slave or two, just to make the day go easier. We wouldn't need seat belts in cars, because their uncomfortable and the stuff that industry poured into the air, the ground and the water "will eventually go away" . . .

    Thud, you are the one that is completely out of touch. I'm a history buff and you clearly aren't. Thomas Jefferson was a huge liberal, so much so that many of our founding fathers had to "rein him in" for fear he'd scare people off. Again you where wrong about stopping trade with Japan too. We had a boycott on Japan for oil and raw goods, which is the primary reason they felt it necessary to attack us on December 7th. We hadn't been doing business with them for some time. In fact, we forced them to go feral on us, because we cut their ability to get oil down to a trickle.

    What smear on Sara Paylin? She's done it all herself. All she's had to do is answer questions and she's managed to stick her foot in her uneducated mouth each time. I know what news papers I read! I can also name all 7 continents without Goggle. Sara Paylin is much like the rest of the current crop of conservatives, just interested in fear mongering, restricting your right to access of established law and revision of well established freedoms.

    Sacrilege you say? Hardly, she's all for freedom of religion, so long as it isn't museum. She's all for personal freedoms, so long as you're not gay. She's all for making women give birth to unwanted children, unless of course it's her own pregnant daughter. She's the classic GOP hypocrite and it comes out of her mouth freely, without difficultly and I hope she runs in 2012, because she's the best thing to happen the Democratic party in a while.
     
  10. troy2000
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    I would love to hear your rebuttal to any or all of the points I made above, and an explanation of how they're 'disconnected from reality.' You can do it in a PM, if you don't want to do it here.

    But you'll have to do better than just making groundless assertions, such as that Jefferson was the equivalent of a modern-day conservative. Jefferson was definitely in the liberal camp of his day, as opposed to some of the more conservative founders. That's no insult to either side; the tension and interplay between them led to the birth of our system of government, with its checks and balances.
     
  11. thudpucker
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    Hamilton was the Kings 'heyboy' of his day and Jefferson was the Conservative.
    Hamilton felt the King should own all the land. The peasents should work the land and in return get to share the crops for food.
    Hamilton also felt all the money should be held by the Rich and no peasants should need any of it.
    Jefferson on the other hand felt we should all have our own share of this country and the leaders should be elected by the people. All people should be educated so the past does not repeat itself.

    Conservative or Liberal? In those days the tax money we were collecting was going to pay off Debts. The Socialists hadn't learned to steal the money to buy votes as yet.

    On Palin:
    She took the Oil companies to task. She told them to pay their share of Taxes or leave!
    They paid! Making the citizens of Alaska the largest Dividend in History.

    The blither of Law suites filed on behalf of the liberals against Palin was costing Alaska a bundle, as well as her own personal fortunes.
    She decided to spare Alaska the onslaught of frivolous lawsuits by liberals and quit.
    She said all that, but the liberal press did not repeat all of what she said. The gossipers of the liberal camps just ran with the gossips.

    The real deal was fear in the Liberal camps that Palin might become VP. The dork we have now in that slot is the Kennedy's heyboy. What good is he?
    He's never won an election. He's been able to shout down his opponent at a crucial time. The Gossipers of the NE like that kind of crap. They felt he won his point, while they never heard the other guys point.

    In the Debate between Palin and the Gaffer the moderator kept that from happening. Palin handled him easily.
     
  12. SheetWise
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    I will reply in PM -- but I will reply here, inasmuch as it is within the scope of "Our Favorite Quotes" -- and related to modern liberalism.

    "A dog is like a liberal. He wants to please everybody. A cat really doesn't need to know that everybody loves him. -- William Kunstler

    "A liberal is a man who is willing to spend somebody else's money."
    -- Carter Glass

    "A liberal mind is a mind that is able to imagine itself believing anything."
    --Max Eastman
     
  13. thudpucker
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    And Margaret Thatcher said something like:
    "Spending someone else's money is fine till the money runs out!"

    At some point we must stop spending working people's money on those who don't earn earn money! (ME)

    A short on America the Capitalistic Republic.

    There are the Capitalists. Those who mortgage to the hilt all their holdings to start a business.
    They hope the door never stops opening and the phone never stops ringing.
    The Capitalist knows the term 'spreading the wealth' really means commerce. Buying and selling.

    Then there is the Infrastructure.
    The huge undulating Maggot that absorbs the Capitalist's Tax dollars and goes after our liberties daily.
    The keepers of the Maggot don't care if the Capitalists go broke. They know the Check will come every Friday whether or not.

    We need the Maggot and the Maggot needs us. However the word infrastructure has been distorted to include payments to the Non-producers.
    At the Capitalist's expense.
    That is taking money from the producer and giving it to the non-producer.
    Liberals do that to buy votes.
    It's up to the Voters to do something about that on November 2.

    "take out the Trash day" (me)
     
  14. troy2000
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    "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border."
    --Sarah Palin

    "If he already knows what pleases him and he can please himself, then why am I in the picture?"
    --Christine O'Donnell

    "He's soooo liberal. He's anti-American. He's beating the 'change' drum. But let's look at the change. He did not vote for English as the official language. What does that say?"
    --Christine O'Donnell

    "We needed to have the press be our friend ... We wanted them to ask the questions we want to answer so that they report the news the way we want it to be reported."
    --Sharron Edge
     

  15. SheetWise
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    SheetWise All Beach -- No Water.

    I was trying to keep this civilized -- and I did PM you. Your response is the equivalent of me giving you a series of quotes from Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, or -- heaven forbid -- Louis Farrakhan.

    Every party has people who identify with them who do not define them. I will not stoop to your level, despite the vastly wider array of material at my disposal.

    "A good discourse is that from which nothing can be retrenched without cutting into the quick." -- Saint Francis de Sales
     
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