OK its got nothing to do with boating, lost dog

[Poida]

I can't believe how long this topic has been going for.

I'm sure If I started a thread titled, "Nothing to do with boating, but I've found a cure for cancer,"

I'd get, "good one Poida but we prefer the jokes thread."

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Poida

I can't believe how long this topic has been going for.

I'm sure If I started a thread titled, "Nothing to do with boating, but I've found a cure for cancer,"

I'd get, "good one Poida but we prefer the jokes thread."

Then dont reply to it then,--- Im not!!!

[Boston]

you could list some dog recipe's.

[Angélique]

Originally Posted by Boston

Deal is he's welcome to stay but he's gotta learn to listen, specially if we are down town. No excuses.

The best way to achieve that is consistency and accept no exceptions to the rule that he has to listen. If he sometimes at home gets away with not listening he sure will try down town where temptations are bigger and he knows when he walks you can't reach him.

When not always the same rules apply he always will be testing where the limits are, most likely he will do so at the worst moment for you as there are his best chances...

Good luck!
Angel

[hoytedow]

If you win your revolution you will need some dog recipes, and cat recipes too.

[Boston]

actually I have no doubt that the same hard work and opportunity that brought out the best in so many folks for so long will prevail once again. All that really needs to happen is to remove the impediments to our success.

Not sure if you read whats already happening to pets in this corporate economy but its criminal how so many broke desperate people are just dumping there animals so maybe they can feed there kids a little more or not loose the car. I don't agree with it, but I'll try and understand the desperation and maybe even help out a little by protesting the corporate economy.

[Angélique]

Originally Posted by Boston

you could list some dog recipe's.

Bos, you don't want to go back to post #87 till #94, do you . . . . .

Cheers
Angel

[PAR]

If a dog leaves the car without your express permission, he's the boss, you're not. The same is true of a doorway of any type. You're the one with the opposing thumbs, he has to accept this, though it appears he's attempting to find the boundaries and/or the limits of your wooseness.

What happened with this car incident was you rewarded him for bad behavior

Originally Posted by Boston

. . . Good dogged him and put his leash on

When this happens, you have to reinforce the proper way, not "let it go". The proper way would have been to immediately get him back in the car, then open the door, not letting him out unless you said so, but first putting the leash on him. Repeat this a few times, then go where ever you intended to. A dog's attention span is only 5 to 10 minutes, so it's not a long work out.

Originally Posted by Boston

. . . I'm a little fuzzy on why it is he was so good for the first few weeks and now as he gets more comfortable with things he's gotta show issues . . .

He was in a new environment and was on his best behavior. Now he knows you're a woosie and he's taking charge for lack of leadership. It's natural for a dog in a new environment to test the edges of the envelop, to see how far they go, but your dog is stepping over the line. Get Cesar's book.

[Boston]

well Par I'm a bouncer, or at least I was, still do part time ( speaking of which I'm late ) . I don't want to hurt the little bastad.

I good dogged him for coming when he was called. Obeyed the command given. I didn't want to escalate things till I hit on his fear button, and send him running through down town. When he came when called it would've confused him to pop him one. Or at least I think it would have.

Just trying to work things out in as peaceful a manor as possible. If it were a patron at the club, I could have dragged his sorry drunk ass out backwards by the throat. The dogs takes a little more savvy. I want him to like me. Besides, there's a lot more entertainment value in some fool freaking out on the sidewalk having just been ejected from the pub than in seeing the terror in some poor lost dogs eyes when he thinks his new owner is going to turn on him.

Ok I"m a wimp, but I think there's a peaceful way to get a 20 lb dog to behave.

he's been back on the leash ever since and hes doing great by the way. Mild corrections every once in a blue moon but all in all, still extremely well behaved.

[Frosty]

As I was saying--- Ive never eaten a dog but---

Bos --have you got cable --try to tune into the dog whisperer it a mexican bloke goes round USA fixing fcked up muts, he is brilliant 5 minutes. He insistes its not the dog its the owner, now how that comes out for you is --well I dont know.

I watch him every week as no 2 fcked up dogs are the same --dont matter ole Ceaser will sort it in minutes,--well 1/2 an hour.

[Boston]

I keep hearing that name but if its not on the net then its not on. I don't own a TV. Probably the only person in America who doesn't have one but for the most part its just a waste of time. I"ll see about looking him up but if every dogs different and its the owner not the dog them I'm screwed. Dogs owner dumped him and he's definitely his own form of critter. Not very doglike if you ask me. He's getting over the inclination to run for his life and I'm learning what sets off his phobia's. There's a way around it all, just gotta pay attention and see what works best.

My theory on this one is, its a dog, I'm bound to be able to outsmart him
I hope

[PAR]

You don't have to hit a dog to train it. In fact, hitting the dog will just teach it to fear you. I've trained the most stubborn little beasts you can imagine and never had I to beat one. I was using his techniques, long before I knew who he was and he's right, in most cases it's the owners that have the problems and project or impose them on their dogs. It's usually not intentional, they just don't know.

It's unlikely you will out smart your dog. He's had you in training since the moment he realized you might be his next meal ticket.

By Cesar's book:
http://www.amazon.com/Cesars-Way-Eve.../dp/0307337332

[Submarine Tom]

As usual, PAR is right.

Don't underestimate these animals.

They remind me of water which is an amazing material with incredible characteristics but so common that we tend to overlook the attributes.

-Tom

[Boston]

Thats kinda my whole point Par, I gotta outsmart him. Deal is I'm trying to outsmart a lot of things, my attention is divided, he on the other hand is pretty focused. Keeps me on my toes.

He has on the other hand straightened up quite a bit since I noticed a potential problem. I've had him on leash a lot more and been really careful that he obeys every command. I don't tell him for instance to "stay" anymore when I'm heading out cause to him that means sit and don't move. Which isn't what he's going to be doing for the hours I'm gone. So its more like "sorry, your not going". I just gotta be careful with my language and keep the command words out of our typical conversation. That and consistency. I'm not much of a dog person but he's not that doglike so I think we can find some middle ground. He'll get over his fears and learn what I expect of him in time. Meanwhile once I'm done with the book I'm working on I'll have to give that one a try.

cheers
B

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by PAR

You don't have to hit a dog to train it. In fact, hitting the dog will just teach it to fear you. I've trained the most stubborn little beasts you can imagine and never had I to beat one. I was using his techniques, long before I knew who he was and he's right, in most cases it's the owners that have the problems and project or impose them on their dogs. It's usually not intentional, they just don't know.

It's unlikely you will out smart your dog. He's had you in training since the moment he realized you might be his next meal ticket.

Buy Ceasar's book:

Depends on the dog. I've had dogs who would be broken-hearted for days if I lost my temper and scolded them. I've also had dogs who were like Missouri mules: I had to basically hit them between the eyes with a 2x4 to get their attention, before discussing their failure to live up to expected standards.

Right now I have a couple of hard-headed Beagles. I've directed their lives with a combination of stern talkings-to when they're out of line, and lavish praise when they behave. It works because they want to please me.

If I ever laid a finger on them, they'd go into shock. Even just swatting them with a rolled up newspaper, as many people recommend, would turn their world upside down and destroy it; it's based on the shaky premise that I'm the only trustworthy human around. What can I say?

At the other end of the spectrum we have a Boxer/Pit Bull mix named Nicky, who runs loose inside the fence of one of our houses. His job isn't to terrorize rabbits, but to discourage some of our less charming neighbors -- the sort who believe everyone should share the wealth, even if they haven't shared the work.

Nicky is big, muscular, hyperactive... and squirrelly. Sometimes when I show up after he hasn't seen me for a few days, he gets so excited that he starts charging around the yard biting on things. Those 'things' include everything from trees and furniture to his German Shepherd fellow yard-guard and best bud -- who sometimes takes exception and tears into him, which means we have to break out the cattle prod again.

Unlike the Beagles who go into shock if I speak to them too harshly, the problem with Nicky is that he gets too excited to listen. I'm dead serious when I say that sometimes the only thing that works is a fist between his eyes or a foot in his ribs.

It doesn't hurt his feelings, and it doesn't make him angry or fearful. Instead, it just gets his attention and lets him know I'm serious: "oh, I beg your pardon. Were you speaking to me?"