ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

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  1. ImaginaryNumber
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    Sadly, true.

    It's always a question whether to post sensational easy-to-read articles written by journalists, or the more measured and careful articles that are typical of the scientific community. Googling "ocean acidification" yields many links. NOAA offers the following links for further understanding:

    Links to OA Information
     
  2. troy2000
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    What you're spouting is the philosophy, religion and politics of despair, well seasoned with contempt for your fellow man. It falls somewhere between teen angst and clinical depression, and I don't like it. I'm not interested in wallowing around in such rubbish, or feeling sorry for myself because I live in such a horrible world.

    If that's what you want to do, I'll get out of your way so you can get back to it. But I think you'd be better off calming down, and perhaps reading this once or twice a day until it sinks in a bit:

     
  3. Silver Raven
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    Hey Troy - WHAT YOU SAID every day of everyones whole life. Thanks for that. I'll say my 2 'creeds' at some later time. I'll not spoil what you quoted. - 'Desiderata' - for it is prose - for all time & all people. Ciao, james
     
  4. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    All have sinned. I have to agree with My Dauphin's remarks.
    Politicians are wolves in sheep's clothing and lie their way into office. UN is a pile of baratas all wanting into our cupboards so they can steal and defile. Warmnologists same same, wanting to have us live in the middle ages. I notice they themselves live the high style though jetting about like they think they are more important than we are. They lack any semblance of humility.
     
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    Thanks
     
  6. ImaginaryNumber
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    Dumping Iron Into Oceans Could Sink Carbon, Slow Global Warming
    For similar articles see also:
    Christian Science Monitor - Dumping iron in the ocean could slow global warming, say scientists
    CBS News - Fertilizing iron in oceans could trap carbon dioxide
    Reuters - Fertilizing oceans with iron dust helps sink carbon
    National Geographic Magazine - Pumping Up Plankton
    NY Times - A Way to Trap Carbon Deep in the Ocean
     
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    Wood burning power plants may hurt global warming fight
    Wood burning stoves cause global warming
     
  8. mydauphin
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    I love the Desiderata, it was shown to me by my yoga instructor. It is good to hear every once is a while. I also read a lot of Buddha But you are making many assumptions on my mental state. I am a highly educated retired federal government agent that ran several international businesses. I have been all over world and been involved with several hemispheric congresses where said politicos did absolutely nothing to solve the worlds problems. They did eat and drink a lot. I am neither Republican or Democrat, I am a libertarian, that believe the Constitution is a well written document to prevent the oppression of people by its governing class and that government at best is a necessary evil.

    I do believe that the worlds problems can be solved, not by God or the devil but by humans. I am a non-theist, and believe the world is less honest and more immoral than before. And religion has nothing to do with it. But like all great societies, when life becomes too easy, they fall apart. Mankind seems to need struggles and war, and it is man eat man out there.

    World history is not pretty, and perhaps we are no worse than the past. I accept the world we live in, but I won't fool myself into thinking that everyone is good out there. There are just enough bad people that you have to watch your back every minute of the day.

    So if you don't believe me; give your money to a stockbroker to manage, your children to a coach or priest, and your blind vote to a politician, and your wife to your best friend, you would be better off trusting the used car salesman.

    The first way to fix a problem is to really understand the source. Hang the politicians, bureaucrats, and their minions then the rest of the lawyers. :)

    We have created a world that doesn't work, it is dying under its own weight, and the solution these people come up with is more regulations, spending and more bureaucracy. It is like curing a cancer with more cancer. We need to get ride of half of the federal government and disconnect ourselves from the UN completely. If not the US will go broke and our states will separate from the central burdensome federal government. If you think that can't happen, it happened in the USSR. We are head straight there, Obama believes in the USSR model, not the US model of running a country.

    I think the long term prognosis of the world is good, but it is going to be a tough 50-100 years. I may or may not be around to see things changes. Is it going to take a complete collapse of our country or society before it fixes itself? Will a religious war happen? Will Iran attack? Will Russia mount a reunification war? Will China show its teeth? Will the world economy just finally collapse? I can tell you many scenarios that could happen, none good, all more likely than flooding or all the global warming stuff.

    Have you notice how people in prior decades were always saying the future is going to be great, with flying cars and stuff. Now it is all about global warning, co2, using less gas. Surviving....Where is my flying car? May be never. In the world of the future, it isn't a brave new world, it is making do with less. And all this because the government is wasting our money on padding someones pockets.

    As the surveillance drones fly around my head, and my screen is watching me, The true enemy is those that use misinformation to trick and fool the mass into submission and accept being dominated. And soon you may not know the truth from their fiction. The history books will be rewritten. So keep posting their propaganda - it is all there for a purpose, and its prophets their tools.
     
  9. Frosty

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    Why is the middle east hotter than the far east. The middle east is further north than where I am and sometimes I live just above the equator near Singapore. It is no where near the soaring temperatures of the middle east. Bagdad today is experiencing 50 degrees (BBC weather )

    The middle east has no trees,--is it as simple as that ,---yes.
     
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    I'm offering tinfoil hats for sale. I'm running an introductory special this week. Is anyone interested?
     
  11. Frosty

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    Tin foil!!!! isnt that what you cook a turkey in.

    A hat made of leafs or leaves would be cooler.

    I keep cool by drinking beer,--slurp -ahhhh I sometimes spill a bit down my shirt and this attracts girls but it also evaporates on the skin and cools the blood --like a Hippopotamus in mud.

    There is even a song about it and it goes,-- mud mud glorious mud nothing quite like it for cooling the blood so follow me follow down to the pub and where we shall wallow in glorious mud.

    Im not sure about the pub bit. I mean you cant get a hippos in a pub can you, slurp ahhh.
     
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    I don't need to make any 'assumptions' about your state of mind; you're an articulate man and you've stated it quite clearly.

    I completely disagree with your claims that people and institutions are less trustworthy than they used to be. Fact is, we're just becoming more aware of problems, because of better communications and more connectivity. As it has always done, the human race fumbles along, taking almost as many steps backwards and sideways as it does forward. But we're making progress and the world is becoming a better place for the average person, even if you can't see it or won't admit it.

    More people are getting fed; more people are getting medical care and surviving diseases and injuries that used to kill; life expectancy worldwide is increasing; the world has become a less violent place with fewer wars and fewer people dying in them.

    Don't believe that one? Here: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/08/15/think_again_war?page=full

    I personally think climate change is going to put some serious strains on the world and its people, and that the strains will be worse because of denial and failure to cope with it in the short term. But I have no doubt we'll survive it in the long run anyway....

    I'm no Pollyanna, and I certainly don't believe we're living in the best of all possible worlds. But your negativity, doom and gloom, and complaints about how low people have sunk are unnecessary, untrue and unhelpful.
    Maybe you should spend a little less energy telling us what's wrong with the world, and a little more doing your bit to straighten it out?
     
  13. RayThackeray
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    The situation just gets more horrifying by the day. I'm coming to the conclusion that if I can get another 30 years of life and sailing without being wiped out by the global warming that's now accelerating faster then even the last two decades' predictions, that'll do for me. For the rest of you who'll live longer than me...

    ...the best of luck to you. You're going to bloody need it.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719

    By Bill McKibben
    July 19, 2012 9:35 AM ET

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719#ixzz21T575GCz
     
  14. mydauphin
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    I am trying to help by keeping the profit machine of the carbon credit oligarchy honest.
    Oh some interesting I found out today, the Penn States football program has revenues of 60 millions a year. That was the reason for the cover. Does that help show how universities have been corrupted by the Almighty dollar. Just imagine how the other dollars are protected.
     
  15. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    Where can I get some UV resistant deck chair material.
     

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