Nom de Plume Syndrome

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Tiny Turnip

My professional field is Architecture, a profession with at least its fair share of opinionated, arrogant primadonnas, and I don’t engage in any Architectural forums.

Another architect here, I know what you are saying.

When this thread was first posted I thought it was a good topic, but it quickly disappeared before I could post.

Accountability is the key to Internet arrogance most of the time but not all of the time. Knowing one's name or real identity does not automatically hold them accountable.

[dskira]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Another architect here, I know what you are saying.

When this thread was first posted I thought it was a good topic, but it quickly disappeared before I could post.

Accountability is the key to Internet arrogance most of the time but not all of the time. Knowing one's name or real identity does not automatically hold them accountable.

It still a good topic. If you want.
Just participate in a constructive manner about the topic at hand.
I realy don't understand this part of your post;
What you mean by:

Accountability is the key to Internet arrogance most of the time but not all of the time

This one I find it pretty good:

Knowing one's name or real identity does not automatically hold them accountable

Daniel

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by dskira

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I really don't understand this part of your post; Arrogance

In another forum an "official" sponsor of the forum has been a bully to a few other members for the past couple of years. Three of the best posters got banned for defending themselves against the attacks on three different occasions just for disagreeing with the sponsor. The guy running the forum is also the moderator and has purchased stereo equipment at a huge discount to make the conflict of interest even worse. The worst of the sponsor's posts get erased to conceal the evidence and protect the guilty.

Anonymity is one thing, but buying off people is another.


Regarding an Article Quote: As any student of Sociology 101 can tell you, when people don't have to account for what they say or do, they will often say and do things that would shock their better selves.

Not just anonymity which brings out the worst, mob rule and group think - the march of that drum and all that.

Real life example: With 65 lobbyists for every member of the US Congress it's like a poorly run forum with the moderator bought off.
http://www.tompaine.com/print/lincoln_weeps.php

[masalai]

http://americathegrimtruth.wordpress.com/ Is USA a nom-de-plume for poverty stricken?
Are you honest enough and with an open mind that will allow you to read it? That is one reason why I hold to a 'nom-de-plume'...

I am not satisfied that "free speech" as in the constitutional right as espoused in the USA document interpreted as the right to express ones-self exists unless you have retained an expensive lawyer to enforce that right... That is another reason I hold to a 'nom-de-plume'...

[dskira]

Originally Posted by masalai

http://americathegrimtruth.wordpress.com/ Is USA a nom-de-plume for poverty stricken?
Are you honest enough and with an open mind that will allow you to read it? That is one reason why I hold to a 'nom-de-plume'...

Family have visited USA on business and were disgusted, and glad to get away...

Masalai your statement is childish. You make the worst mistake an honest man will do: you generalize.
Generalization is the attribut of the racists and the bigots.

You are by far not on this category, so don't repeat stupid thing.

Come back with your intelligent wit and denounce the greedy. That part I like.
Daniel

[TollyWally]

So I read the grim truth. Fairly pessimistic stuff. Our government has clearly acted in a financially irresponsible manner.

So Masalai, the blogpost you put up sounds like a fairly typical far left rant. It touches on government supplied healthcare, inadequate american vacation time, corporate excess, the dangers of coroprate agriculture, excessive material possessions, guns are evil, third world people having a better quality of life, etc.

I've been impressed by your focus on unsustainable financial policy in the past. You were urging caution before the bubble popped. Now you picked this article to post. So a few quick questions;

How balanced do you think it is?

How closely does it mirror your views?

Is there anything in that article you would like to distance yourself from?

Governments basically have two directions to spend their money on, guns and butter. We've spent a lot of money on guns, no one would argue that. And we've spent quite a bit on butter. Right now our government is borrowing vast sums of money for more butter, moving us towards a european model of citizens relying on their government to provide much of their needs.

What would you suggest we do?

What policies are appropriate?

Who should or should not pay for the services governments provide?

[masalai]

Wally,
Actually it came from a fairly right wing libertarian thinking group who are well aware of the problems confronting the good and "Average USA citizens" and foisted on them by the 'Greedy Bastards of the Wall St., bankster Consortium'... Most have relocated to or have residency status elsewhere and continue to live in USA for the present as they have to attend to their business...

I would be inclined to a libertarians minimalist government, although healthcare, education, and an effective legal system should be free to the citizens to guarantee honest fair and open trade... and not deliver "punitive damages" to victims but legal redress and punishment to the wrong doers...

COST TO YOU
The services your government provides now will cost you and your children and their children VERY DEARLY for at least 50 years unless the Govt defaults... - - Have you not been reading the stuff I so diligently and post with honest caring consideration to keep you all informed in an honest and open manner?

# - Military intervention is a waste of taxpayer money... - - - Defence occupies more than 70% of all your taxes... - - - What the F for? (ensure CIA controls heroin distribution?)

# - Social Security (unemployment and old age pensions) are soo over-budget I doubt it will be available soon...

# - Health Care is ATROCIOUS ******** and vastly over-expensive to cover the American disease of suing for any possible event (Lawyers get rich no one else) More lawyers in USA per capita than anywhere else in the world by MILES...

WHAT TO DO
USA is a disaster waiting to explode but will probably collapse without much of a whimper like a pile of rotting vegetables... - - - Read the essay, Get advice and look to emigrate, if your skills are useful elsewhere... Go there while you can... The barriers being erected are to keep you in as the ongoing Terrorist scare is a fake story to make everyone afraid and compliant... (You don't need guns and too much butter is not good for you...)

# - I feel the general outcome is plausible (in either of 2 scenarios), however the detail and cause is not concurrent with my feeling...

# - But I would suggest the military forces are compliant to the generals orders... (They know where the money comes from, and most of the soldiers are better off than they were as civilians...)

# - The political system is corrupt and NOT capable of being cleaned up, as the corruption is open and well organised, as explained in the essay

# - I feel the core is in the "banksters of Wall St" as exposed by GATA at the CFTC meetings on the Thursday before Easter... and that will not be cleaned up, as the politicians will bury it, - as it is not in their interests to clean up...

Do read the posts regularly in the link in my "signature area"

If you are unable to leave, Form a self help community group to share
# - Growing vegetables
# - Storing and distributing of seasonal food sharing
# - Growing and breeding goats, chickens for meat, milk eggs (cattle are too big for immediate consumption and are not good value - native deer in the forrest areas could be good and hunt with bow and arrow so as not to attract passing vandals)
# - Maintaining water in tanks captured from all roofs - This is critical...
# - Providing for disposal of sewerage and other wastes to be recycled as fertilizer and food for worm farms - This is critical...
# - Self education of the community children
# - Providing basic electricity for refrigeration, some lighting (solar-panels and other renewable resources)
# - Harvest timber for building new & repair, - - and the scrap waste to be used for cooking
# - Fish farming if streams or ocean access of clean (unpolluted water) is available
# - Forrestry for timber supplies as well as a growing barrier to hide the community from others that are still determined to scavenge from the organised and diligent
# - Develop a knowledge base of how to do things (will also form the curriculum for the self education programme...) and develop into a useful library
# - Keep the ideas coming... a community of about 200 men, women, children and oldies should be sustainable... But NOT A Picnic

PLAN NOW and continue gathering resources...

[TollyWally]

Thank you for your reply. I have read some of your work on the "other" site in your sig and much of what you've written here. You gave me some good advice a year or two back.

I respectfully disagree about your charactorization of the blogpost you linked being rightwing. Certainly there are elements of libertarianism there but the whole thing has a very liberal feel to it. But no matter, these are subjective opinions at this level.

I'm too old and more importantly too stubborn to run. I am a quintessential American. The first of my people were here at Jamestown, the last new blood fled to here from Eastern Europe in the 20's. 300 years start to finish. We built this place.

I still look at our founding in amazement. We founded a nation based on an idea, that a man's liberty was paramount. And by hook or by crook we seized our liberty from what was at the time one of the most powerful nations on earth. We took it. We didn't wait for it, or ask pretty please, we bought it with blood, guts, and luck.

We're a long ways from that now. The creeping socialism modeled on Europe is very alarming. We were created as the antithesis of Europe. We live in interesting times. My nation is deeply polarized, we are at a cross roads. Looking back on history, anything could happen.

When push comes to shove I don't think the military will side with a government like our current one against the people. It might not be as clear cut, black and white a situation as that but I don't think the government would push it to those limits and take a chance. Maybe I'm wrong, Lord knows I have made mistakes in the past.

I appreciate your concern and advice. That being said, I'll be damned if I'll run. If the worst came to be, random chance will save me from being in the first wave and I'm too smart to sell myself too cheaply. I appreciate your taking the time to address my initial queries and will step down from the soap box now.