Noahs' Ark- Better than New?

[Frosty]

No No the word would not be brain washed, I dont know what the word is, im a bit shocked and stunned to be honest.

I don't even know what language that bottom bit is. If you don't want me to understand,-- why post it.

[Frosty]

I think im gonna have a couple of days off after that last post, !!!!!!!

I did'nt think any one really really believed it.

Im going fishing --live my life a bit.

[hoytedow]

• Ab esse ad posse valet, a posse ad esse non valet consequentia.
o Translation: "From a thing's reality one can be certain of its possibility, from its possibility one cannot be certain of its reality."

[Frosty]

Im not here sorry --Frosty has gone fishing!

[dskira]

Originally Posted by masrapido

Apart from the fact that "gods" do not exist .

Yes it's true: gods do not exist. God exist.
Sorry I know we have allready our difference on that subject.
Daniel

[dskira]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Im not here sorry --Frosty has gone fishing!

Hope you catch some good one, then cook them with parsley, lemon, sea salt, and olive oil. Add some garlic. If you do with onion, a good way is to cook at very low heat the onions for one hour, when they are light brown add the prepared fish and the ingredients.
Have fun.
Daniel

[Boston]

interesting that the majority of the native american belief is almost diametrically apposed to Christianity

We Christians do believe in spirits. Angels are spiritual beings, but the ghosts of departed humans are not active, and sleep until Judgement Day. When you see an apparition known as a familiar spirit, it is not the spirit of who you think it is but rather, a demon in disguise. There is also the Holy Spirit, commonly known as The Holy Ghost or Comforter who resides in your heart if you will accept Him. He is the third element of The Trinity, or as you would say in Chile, La Trinidad

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my ancestors believed almost exactly the opposite of what you just said Hoyt
as do I
I've always found it fascinating that there can be such completely opposite views concerning faith

cheers
B

[Frosty]

[quote=Boston
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my ancestors believed almost exactly the opposite of what you just said Hoyt
as do I
I've always found it fascinating that there can be such completely opposite views concerning faith

cheers
B[/QUOTE]


In other words some one has got it all wrong,and it could be either of you or both.

Why do you have to feel that there is something after death. Why do you need to feel a purpose.

Thats exactly why religion was made up.

The purpose is to mate --pass on your genes and die --thats it.

Horrible thought isnt it, but thats it.

It wasnt my choice to be born, it was'nt my choice to be man, it wasnt my choice to be English, It wasnt my choice to be white. I didnt even choose my own name.

Religion was forced down my neck before I knew what it was, at an age that I should have had nothing to do with religion.

And there lies a big problem with his place.

(teach em Christianity quick before the they get interested in something else)

[Boston]

well for me Frosty its not really a matter of why I have to believe in something

mater of fact I think what you are suggesting is outside of my belief system which is very alien to most non natives. Honestly its got nothing to do with beating a few drums and dancing round a fire. Nor is it any belief of a god like character. Instead I believe in the strength of the great spirit, not a god or angels but componts of us all human animal plants rocks earth sky water, all are an integral part of the great spirit. Harm one and you harm all, Grow close to one and you grow closer to all most importantly the more honestly you exist within the whole the closer to it you become.


I'd recommend riding a horse a few hundred miles and then tell me he didn't teach you a few things
Once you begin to learn how to work with the horse to get something done then you can begin to see the spirit at work
ok some folks just bully the horse around but what Im talking about is working together with another living thing that's likely to hurt you if you screw up
kinda raises your attention level some once you have seen someone squished by a pissed off horse

its hard to explain Frosty
what I believe is nothing like Christianity
in so many ways that your question about why I have to believe is so hard to answer

your basis of a belief is a long way from mine
and so your question combining why I believe with why a christian believes is a bit difficult to fit in one answer
I think its best to leave why a christian believes to a christian
as for why I believe
its all around me every day why I believe

[Frosty]

As Is usual i dont really address my posts to any one person in particular.

Sometimes Im talking to myself or the world in general.
There is so many religions and beliefs and so diverse that you cant say well we were nearly similar to some one else.

Only one can be right -- so infact most of us have got it wrong.

So no matter what your beliefs the odds are that you are likely to be wrong

[Boston]

no worries
Im just trying to say there are tangibles involved in certain native belief systems VS the intangibles involved on most others

at some point its a simple mater of that all elusive sixth sense

that fleeting thought that makes you turn your head just as some fool clocks you one
or when you walk into the kitchen to get a drink and the dog is siting there by his bowl looking at you like
"water dummy"
and then you notice his bowl is empty

there are many typical instances in which one just feels something
turns
and there it is staring them in the face
whether its a car coming down the road with your girl in it or if its just in time to miss being squashed by a falling Frosty

basically an electroencephalogram is taken by contacts being placed on the skin and small bio electric signals being recorded
but they dont have to place the electrodes on the skin
they could have a series of them at some distance to the skin

ok so the wave length of that signal is 4~40 hz and mostly in the 7~8 hz range
well guess what
the all famous Shoeman gap that old Tesla was trying to tap into with his wireless energy transfer tower was of exactly that wave form
its the background frequency of the planet
just happens to be in the same frequency range as the transient signal of the mammalian mind as well as just about every life form on the planet

proves nothing other than that the opportunity of random interactions leading to an amplification effect as previously discussed being a possibility and within that possibility lies the tangible nature of the Great Spirit
because within that possibility lies also the ability of all of our thoughts existing outside of ourselves and within non linear time
remember that bit about De Ja Vu I wrote a short while back

just saying

B

ps
I just yesterday got smashed with a physics professor from CU and we went over the basics of the theory. As I said I'd like to quantify it sufficiently to make a paper out of it but he thinks its not the part about the orbital signal obeying Godels theory of causality in that small of a system but rather qualifying the ability to "hear" the signal. Although we both agreed that if the signal can be shown to exist then its reasonable to suggest that in "might" be "readable" which is a step in the right direction. He also believes that working out the parameters of a signal in that small of an orbital path that will obey Godels theory is going to be a trick

[masrapido]

Originally Posted by dskira

Yes it's true: gods do not exist. God exist.
Sorry I know we have allready our difference on that subject.
Daniel

It is important to exchange ideas no matter how different they are. That is the only good way to learn and progress.

[masrapido]

Originally Posted by hoytedow

• Ab esse ad posse valet, a posse ad esse non valet consequentia.
o Translation: "From a thing's reality one can be certain of its possibility, from its possibility one cannot be certain of its reality."

This is such an atheistic quote, I find it interesting that you quote it. From belief point of view, most of all. The point of this saying is contrary to believing: "from it's possibility one cannot be certain of its reality".

A "god" may exist but we cannot possibly be certain. So to say that "a god" exist with certainty, is to speak without support for the belief.

One is free to believe until one starts puking, but without verifiable evidence, one will never know. Just believe.

Why cannot religious people believe me when i say that no such thing as "god" exists? I am smarter than any of those "priests"...I know better. And I love and protect children, unlike those perverted deviants who rape them and maltreat them.

[Frosty]

Statistics of religious groups in America.

http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/resea...y_findings.htm

[dskira]

Originally Posted by Frosty

It wasnt my choice to be born, it was'nt my choice to be man, it wasnt my choice to be English, It wasnt my choice to be white. I didnt even choose my own name.

Religion was forced down my neck before I knew what it was, at an age that I should have had nothing to do with religion.

And it was not you choice to learn how to read and write also.
But in a certain way you take great advantage of all the things you didn't choose.
Frosty your thought about choice are quite juvenile. Please don't take that as offensive, but every teenager in rebelion says the same.
Take responsabilty with what you have, that is the real purpose of your life.
And enjoy it, and do good to other.
How's fishing went?
Daniel