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Old 02-18-2010, 12:58 PM
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More "Free Energy" snake oil?

This showed up in my SPAM folder this morning. Anybody heard of it?

http://www.magniwork.com
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Old 02-18-2010, 01:28 PM
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If this workd as they say it could not be kept a secret and someone would have made and sold millions of units. Reminds me of the discovery of "Cold Fusion"
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:59 PM
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and "Man Made Global Warming".... All Hype and No Substance.....
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Old 02-18-2010, 03:14 PM
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and "Man Made Global Warming".... All Hype and No Substance.....
Talk about a stretch...not hard to figure out what your obsession is.

If an ad that promises free energy and actually uses the term "perpetual motion" somehow reminds you of global warming, there's probably nothing that wouldn't. I can hear you now: "yeah, Sara Lee claims they make the best cheesecake in the world--just like scientific frauds claim global warming is real."
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Old 02-18-2010, 03:50 PM
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Speaking of perpetual motion that isn't, now that global warming is over, the ice caps should return to the poles, which in turn will speed up the rotation of the earth until the ice caps melt again, which will slow down the rotation of the earth, like when the ice skater raises her arms and then extends them out to the sides. I think that's cool.
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Old 02-18-2010, 03:53 PM
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Try a visit here....

http://www.lutec.com.au/

....it certainly seems like they have done it.
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Speaking of perpetual motion that isn't, now that global warming is over, the ice caps should return to the poles, which in turn will speed up the rotation of the earth until the ice caps melt again, which will slow down the rotation of the earth, like when the ice skater raises her arms and then extends them out to the sides. I think that's cool.
Jeez...any day now, I expect to log into a porn site and find you guys beating up on global warming, instead of sexy babes. Don't you ever give it a rest?
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:03 PM
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The Magiwork mob seem to be stretching the truth somewhat, they claim that homes have been poewered by the device, yet NO evidence can be substantiated (so far at least)...yes the device can be made to work (minute output), but to my belief so far no one has made one that is actually connected to the grid power (as arre solar panels etc) and actually making household power.
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Jeez...any day now, I expect to log into a porn site and find you guys beating up on global warming, instead of sexy babes. Don't you ever give it a rest?
I was talking about ice skating and rotational inertia, wasn't I?

P.S. I'm cold. We don't have California weather here in the Sunshine State.

And never beat up on a sexy babe. You will get arrested.
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The general concept (permanent magnets spinning past a coil) has been around for a long time. Here's a small and simple version you can build yourself to prove it works. I'm currently building one similar.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Bedi...al-Oscillator/
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The general concept (permanent magnets spinning past a coil) has been around for a long time. Here's a small and simple version you can build yourself to prove it works. I'm currently building one similar.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Bedi...al-Oscillator/
But they're claiming it's free energy....that you can keep recycling it forever, with no loss. As I pointed out, they actually used the term "perpetual motion" in their ad. I guess they think their target demographic is pretty dumb....
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I guess they think their target demographic is pretty dumb....
It is! You would not believe how many otherwise intelligent people invest in such schemes.
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I doubt those would be free Boston, ya pays for woy ya gets, two seem to cost me enough already, that would make a 50% increase in all costs...
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Try a visit here....

http://www.lutec.com.au/

....it certainly seems like they have done it.
Just in case someone takes your comment seriously!
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/lutec1.pdf
This gives some proper calculations on the efficiency claim. It looks about what I would expect from the device and shows you should not let mechanical engineers interpret what is happening in an electrical circuit.

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interesting stuff but...
any generator is having significant drag if you draw the electrical energy from it... in one their videos a few bulbs are been lit - not a very big consumer and therefore not a big power-draw...
i think that as soon as you draw significant amps from the generator to power some device, drag is going up and thus requiring more input power...
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