Last voyage for Costa Concordia cruise ship

[Submarine Tom]

It was posted on one of the other two Concordia threads with some interesting comments.

-Tom

[bntii]

Originally Posted by rxcomposite

There is supposed to be a documentary by National Geographic on the Concordia. It was flashed on TV yesterday but missed it today. Anybody got a link?

The show airs tonight:

http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...er_semgngc_122

We are going to watch it.

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by rxcomposite

There is supposed to be a documentary by National Geographic on the Concordia. It was flashed on TV yesterday but missed it today. Anybody got a link?

It looks like it plays tonight at 10pm Eastern Time in the U.S.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.co.../schedule/ngc/

[BPL]

Safety drills will now legally be conducted before leaving port instead of "within 24 hours"
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb...rules-20120213

[BPL]

Salvage is a long process.

"The cruise line is considering bids for the ship's removal and is expected to make a decision -- based on method and costs -- in two months, NBC News has learned. Actual removal could take up to 10 months."

http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...e-up-to-a-year

[pmolsen]

Feedback is sought on any inaccuracies in the 3D animation of the disaster please. In particular on the bow thruster use question.

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...2b60986ab4327c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhwW6FlL9ow

[IEWinkle]

Originally Posted by pmolsen

Feedback is sought on any inaccuracies in the 3D animation of the disaster please. In particular on the bow thruster use question.

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...2b60986ab4327c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhwW6FlL9ow

A few comments on your interesting animation.

'In spite of over 100 years of shipbuilding experience sice the Titanic, the outcome was the same. The ship rapidly took on water' but did not sink - she capsized! Deaths were caused by the delay in deploying lifeboats rather than the lack of lifeboats. Although the profession has learned from experience, poor decision making at the scene can cause unnecesary deaths.

Despite the total loss of all power the ship managed to turn through 180 degrees while drifting under the influence of wide and tide and end up at rest on the shore - the captain was unable to control the vessel in any way. If he had been able to he should have beached it bow first onto the shore to maintain stability. Lives were lost because of the grounding and subsequent capsize!

No reference is made to the statements of the engineers after the first few minutes that machinery spaces were flooded as part of 5 flooded watertight compartments even though the ship was only designed for a maximum of 3 adjacent flooded compartments.

Because of this, three of the six generators would have failed almost immediately (just forward of the embedded rock) as would the two propulsion motors (alongside the embedded rock) - the vessel was thus drifting almost from the point of impact (speed slowly falling away from 7 knots). The remaining three seem to have kept going for about 10 minutes (the point of blackout). From this point no steering or thruster power would have been available and the vessel was 'not in command' - despite the statements of the master and crew members - drifting under its own momentum and the combined action of wind on its superstructure and the tidal current on its hull.

Ship abandoned as it started to capsize - about one hour too late with passengers and crew trapped on board by the increasing angle of heel.

[BPL]

"The second tank containing 410 cubic metres of fuel was emptied at a speed of eight cubic metres per hour. Emptying of the first six [of 15] tanks of the Costa Concordia will be completed in about three to four days"
http://www.agi.it/english-version/it...cordia_emptied

[BPL]

"500,000 gallons of oil was in the tanks of the 114,500 ton ship,
2,300 tonnes of heavy fuel and
200 tonnes of diesel fuel."
http://www.digitaljournal.com/articl...#ixzz1mVciC3Qn

[powerabout]

I wonder if the cruise ship industry will be paying carbon tax just like the airline industry?

( maybe it should be mining tax?)

[powerabout]

Originally Posted by peter radclyffe

the findings from the ships black box have been released,just before the crash the captain is clearly heard saying,

its time to put a reef in

excellent!

[NorCal]

Originally Posted by powerabout

I wonder if the cruise ship industry will be paying carbon tax just like the airline industry?

( maybe it should be mining tax?)

If the fuel was purchased in the EU the price reflects the price of carbon in the EU ETS. An additional carbon tax would be extraneous. Guess they included aviation which hits the airlines or more appropriately the passengers twice.

[RonL]

Apologies to anyone that may have already posted this possibility of how the damage took place.
A similar event in my past (no collision, but an extremely close call) leads my vision of mind to consider the huge displacement of the ship as it passed close to the outcrops appearing above water.
The fins are extended, but not damaged, this suggest a fast swing of the stern into the rocky outcrop, a corrective action that likely was not required (a knee jerk reaction may have taken place ?) is the hard to starboard move.

The ships huge displacement would cause a river of flow between the two outcrops, as the majority of the ships volume is forward and moving away from the outer of the two rocky masses, there would be a tremendous pull of this water flow to be added to the power of the ship making this turn action.

Just my theory, for what it might be worth.

RonL

[michael pierzga]

Local high speed ferry did a " COSTA" last night. Not sure if it was a drive by to wave at friends, football game GOAL !!! or Iphone error that caused the crash

Looks like if youre gonna do a Costa, its safer with a multi hull. Not much damage and the ferry is securely parked with no capsize threat. .

[BPL]

The Maverick Dos reminds me of the ferry perched on top of a building after the Japanese tsunami.