Last voyage for Costa Concordia cruise ship

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.farevela.net/2012/01/14/t...i-navigazione/

 

[Yobarnacle]

should have been miles away. Invited disaster!

 

[Yobarnacle]

http://www.farevela.net/2012/01/14/t...i-navigazione/

1.- Tragedia Costa Concordia: al Giglio non ci sono secche che una nave del genere possa urtare, salvo gravissime negligenze. Un chiarimento con semplici principi di navigazione

exactamente. What I said! First principle. Rule One.

 

[peter radclyffe]

http://gcaptain.com/costa-concordia-underwater-photos/

 

[Yobarnacle]

https://gcaptain.com/wrong-costa-concordia-analysis/?37549

 

[daiquiri]

I have the charts !! No lighthouse.

This is Giglio Porto town. Two lighthouses are visible and so are the two small rocky islands which have torn the Costa Concordia's hull:

This chart also shows that there are four lighthouses on the island - two at the entrance of the port and two at the northernmost and southernmost points of the island:



Michael, perhaps you and the captain of Costa Concordia are using the same charts...

 

[Yobarnacle]

The lights on the jettys are exactly that. jetty lights. Technically not lighthouses. i don't have a med lightlist but I'd expect those jetty lights to be low power and low geographical range. They mark the jetty when entering. Other two lights, i can't see them to identify.

 

[daiquiri]

Ah, they are called jetty lights in english, I didn't know that. In italian they are called "fanali" if their range is under 10 NM and "fari" if above 10 NM range.
So, technically speaking as you say, there are two jetty lights at the port entrance and two lighthouses at the extreme north/south points of the island.
All four of them should be indicated on Michael's charts anyways.

 

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/profile?feat...I&user=TuVoFaLAmericanu#p/u/0/mnipW6ey60k

 

[CatBuilder]

Daiquiri, the jetty, in American English, is the rock those fanali are built on top of.

 

[daiquiri]

Oh yeah, jetty lights. I will correct the previous post. Thanks.

 

[Yobarnacle]

As close as he was, the captain could probably see the desk lamp in the harbor masters office.

 

[daiquiri]

Ah the harbor master, right... Well, there is video and photographic evidence that this kind of close pass-by is a common practice and have been done many times before, like this gallery testifies: http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/20...ta_le_foto_dei_lettori-28162359/1/?ref=HREA-1 . No harbour master has ever done anything to stop that practice, and the Coast Guard has also evidently been compliant, or else these close passages wouldn't have become a common practice.

So the faults are spread on a much wider area of competences. The captain is at this point probably just the cheapest scapegoat they could offer to the media, though all his errors remain evident.

A local newspaper reports some interesting comments on the Facebook page for the Costa Crociere maritime staff. One officer claims that the maneuver performed by the captain after the breach of the hull was wrong, and has probably led to the loss of the ship. He says that, had the captain chosen to sail farther from the island (instead of trying to get as close as possible), the ship wouldn't touch the seabed and list so quickly. The compartments would be sealed off, giving it sufficient buoyancy and stability to allow the evacuation with lifeboats from both port and starboard side of the ship.
By choosing to ground the ship, the captain has caused the excessive list, which has left him with only half the lifeboats available for evacuation.

Any thoughts on this?

 

[Mr Efficiency]

Seems a miracle so few lives were lost.

 

[daiquiri]

Seems a miracle so few lives were lost.

In fact, that fact goes against the media firing on the crew for alleged incompetence and inefficiency during the evacuation phase. 4000 people were evacuated in little more than 2 hrs, in the night and with badly listed ship - that was a well-done job imho.