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  1. goodwilltoall
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    goodwilltoall Senior Member

    Greetings,

    My little monkey friends, I understand you have not attained to my higher processes of being, but will bear with you at this time, as I feel rather merciful.

    No worries though, nothing matters anyways, keep frolicking among the sweet smelling flowers, for tomorrow you shall die, unless today, I change my mind and decide you must leave sooner.

    Hey lets just light up the whole place, it'll be a blast. The universe self propagates again. Too many people anyways. You guys go and jump first, I'll follow afterwards.

    The fool has said in his heart "there is no god".
     
  2. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    cuckoo
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    picture a bird emerging from a pair of miniature barn doors and flapping its wings while pointing at someone named Will and repeating over and over

    Cuckoo
    Cuckoo
    Cuckoo

    Actually I think the fool said something about transcending the religious dogma, but apparently thats never going to happen, not enough drugs in the world.

    I gotta admit, I'm glad I threw you those last few points, very entertaining, very entertaining indeed. But really Will, you can't seriously expect people to buy into this fantasy land of yours, do you. I mean imagine if I went on and on about Dozer, or Zul. Would that convince you of the error of your ways. How would you feel if someone else came in and mentioned forgiving you and letting you live, for now ? Or your own beliefs being accosted by someones rude insistence. How about if we all just quit with the mindless proselytizing and stick to the subject ? Seem fair ? Cause really, you sound like your living in a rubber room and some fool orderly slipped you a computer just for kicks. I suppose if I had to hazard a guess I'd say Schizoaffective disorder but there's really no telling from a distance. This is no one wants to hear it.

    All praise Dozer, blessed be the holly knockers ( throws hands in the air ) and spare us the self righteous crap or empty pious threats, its really unbecoming.

    I am curious about one thing though, whats your particular flavor of religious diatribe ? I'm pretty good with religious history and this could get interesting once you realize that the historical facts might just not line up so well with the religious dogma you so dearly espouse
     
  3. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    Iran has taken a war ship through the Suez canal twice now much to the annoyance of Isreal ( Yeah Ille bet)

    To get close enough for a pin point hit on Isreal it would be advantages to get into the med.

    I have a feeling that when they are ready to let one go they will once again travel the canal and say Oh weve done it before, nothing to worry about, just normal maneuvers.

    They are not very bright you know !
     
  4. Frosty

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  5. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    its a lot like key stone cops actually but with bombs. I'd say its going to be a short war.
     
  6. conceptia
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    conceptia Naval Architect

    yeah its going to be a short war. With 85 US stations all around Iran, a war could last only a few weeks. But, that mark a complete end to the glorious persian culture, one among the oldest in the world. Moreover, after such a war there will be very less people left in that country. Then we say Iranians are barbarians. Explain how we differ, and why not we are barbarians after this massacre. The war would just mark that there are no difference between us and the barbarians.
     
  7. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    I dont think it will work out like that, when Israel gets to know for sure they have nukes they will attack. US an Europe will tell Israel to stop but it wont.

    Saudi will point its guns and stand up Israel will be wiped out. US will do nothing. The rest of Arabia, Syria, Libya ,Yemen, Egypt etc can do little at this present moment making it even more a likely that Israel will see this moment as time to attack.

    Of all the scenarios we have gone through in the last 50 years I see non as threatening as this. This is the one Nostradamus was talking about. It Is a series of coincidences that will be seized upon now or not at all. Its been coming to the boil for 60 years.

    How dumb are humans, we will kill each other over religion of course.

    Israel too have made some very concerning remarks that could be interpreted as an imminent attack if Nukes are found in Iran.

    What does a teacher do if it has two kids at the back of the class threatening each other with sticks, do they wait till they fight, do they let them fight then re decorate the class room or do they step in before hand and take the sticks away.

    If you allow one to have a stick and not the other then you are the problem.

    But Americas says "Oh no,-- you dont need nukes, we have them and we wont let you get hurt. Then when threatened Americas says "we are not the worlds police look after yourself'.

    This is new,--America has not fought with a nuclear capability ever before only little countries like Korea (50years ago) , Vietnam, Irag , Afganistan.

    I hope the wind is blowing west.

    Iran has now stopped selling oil to Europe in punishment for sanctions placed on Iran and oil has gone through the roof,---who is sanctioning who. China is quite happy to buy the oil and all there is of it.

    Another reason to attack.
     
  8. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I'm not seeing it Frosty. The US or Israel will send in commando teams and get the job done ASAP. Get out and call it good long before the Arab world even knows its on. The Iranian response is the only real wild card, and that will be after the fact as well. So they will have plenty of time to think twice about it. I foresee air support taking out Iranian radar and surface to air capabilities as well as its missile offense/defense assets. It might begin with a siber attack against there communications. I'm thinking it will be a well coordinated 4~6 hour assault with devastating accuracy, no allied losses, a few prisoners maybe.

    The guys will be home in time for cornflakes and the Iranians wont know what hit them for days, till they get there communications back up.

    Thats if the US takes the lead, if the Israeli's take the lead, it might take an extra moment or two while they bomb a few other targets while there at it.
     
  9. michael pierzga
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    michael pierzga Senior Member

    From what I read the Iranians are not dumb...they have spread out and hardened their nuclear program. I dont believe that a few commandos can slip it and remove the threat.
    It is a difficult time for Israel. America is war weary. The mood of the voters is against military expenditure. Israel's only hope would be to send Commandos to the US , blow up a prize asset, leave a few dead Iranians on site then hope that the US goes Crusading again
     
  10. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    I remember similar thoughts over Iraq.

    If they do that then Iran will be on---If your sure 100% you have took out thier capabilities. But if you hav'nt then you have trouble.

    While you back eating corn flakes they could be wheeling out another you did not know about and still twisting wires together on the one you think you took out.

    Wouldnt you say thats a massive over simplification of war and bound to bite you in the ***.

    You've never fought a nuclear capable country before and few as reckless, complacency and over confidence will not pay out on this one.
     
  11. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    while I agree the false flag strategy does work. Plenty of historical evidence to suggest it. I think all parties would like to see a more definitive solution. Ground forces at the various underground sites to at least confirm that bunker busters did the job, and if not Finnish it for them. At present the Iranians are on there delay and negotiate plan. With UN inspectors in country and talking about inspections. Its not going to work. Both the US and Israel is dying for a fight. So its game on and no stopping it. US public opinion means nothing to the fascist regime.


    Not really Frosty. The US has just about all its assets in place from Iraq. There's a reason for that. Its most economical to use them against Iran before you bring them home rather than have to send them all the way back at some later date. Its just another operation to a bunch of guys who've been in combat for a tad over ten years now. About the only wild card is the Russian air defense systems that the Iranians are trying to buy. Even if they have them it will only delay the inevitable. Again I predict no losses, we take a few prisoners for questioning, home in time for cornflakes. I seriously doubt it will be anything protracted. Why make the same mistakes we made in Iraq or Afghanistan. Even the military learn eventually. I doubt we'd even send in a tank column. Airborne only mission, might drop some heavy expendable stuff to give the guys some wheels while there at it, then blow it before the extraction. Imagine the surprise of the Iranian guard if a dozen M1-A came rumbling up to the gates at morning prayers, and the installation is 800 miles from the border, behind an impassible mountain range. I don't think they understand the capabilities of the US military if they think for one second that anything is safe once targeted.

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  12. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    No No the last thing Obama wants is another war and a bigger one at that.

    Israel is on its own and the Un will take 6 months to decide what to wear.

    I think Iran is willing to risk anything to wipe out Israel --even itself.

    They will do it then shrug shoulders, its done, its over. From our point of view it may mean peace --for a while. No one will mis the Iraelites.
     
  13. michael pierzga
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    michael pierzga Senior Member

    From what I read Bunker Busters may not be able to penetrate the hardened infrastructure.

    Infidel troops on Muslim land with stir up the hornets nest. Death by a million bee stings.
     
  14. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    Israel is not on its own mate. The US has one actual friend in that region and there not wearing turbans. No way are we ever going to let Israel down. Sure Iran is happy to die for the cause, I can hear my military friends now; let em. Its a pretty pis pore strategy if your trying to win a war. Self destruction is not a winning strategy.

    You do have a good point though, which is why either the US or Israel must strike first. Personally I think it will be the Israeli's but I think it would go over better with the rest of the Arab world if it where the US

    Michael
    we're already the infidels on sacred soil. The whole of Saudi is considered sacred and we've got countless bases there. So while your logic is sound I'm not seeing it as being a factor.
     
  15. Frosty

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    Winning maybe just to wipe out Israel. At least thats the end of it and --well--yeah we would have peace in the east. Arabia would think it a win result.

    I don't have your confidence in US alliance with a doomed country at the cost of another war and No US will not be out in 6 days. The shortest possible will be 6 month. When has Us won a war in 6 days.

    It will take you 5 years to rebuild the infrastructure you destroy in the first day, Iraq !! remember.

    England never did, they drag them out and behead the government in the street at 9am then ask for volunteers, by tea time the country is under new rule.

    Its the government you are at war with not the Infrastructure.
     

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