Israel

People tend to confuse the foreign policy junk of US politicians
with the wishes or beliefs of the citizens. Individuals in the
US, Australia, or elsewhere, have very little say as to whether
their politicians will start overt or covert wars.
US citizens are not responsible for the wars started by their
politicians. Unless, of course, they voted for war-mongers like
Bush, or Clinton (who regard murderous psychos like Sukarno as
"our kind of guy").

 

Your defensive rhetoric that continues to deny the obvious will be sorely missed I'm sure meanwhile those that you justify by denying their wrong doings will continue with their interference in the rights of soveriegn nations at will only to support their personal agendas.

Your own congressman elected by the people also ambush and steal from those same electors, i.e. friends of Angelo and those in the Whitehouse plus congressman C Dodd getting motgage kickbacks.

All involved friends of Bush who by his orders blindsided FBI investigations by using the 9/11 event as an opportunity to dismantle FBI's investigation into Bank fraud, political pork barreling and political corruption.
The same Bush who's oil business career was financed by the same Saudi family that later created 9/11.

These are the same people that make your laws, but also undermind the power and impariality of the Supreme Court by the lobbied political appointment of jurist and yet see them selves as worthy to set the course of history and do so only because people like yourself live in denial.

 

I dont think corruption in Congress or goofy foreign policy decisions are unique to the US. All free democracies suffer the same.

The issue with the US is its size and power. A misguided policy decision by Greece is something we read about in the newspaper, a misguided policy decision by the US causes worldwide suffering .

What to do about Iran ? Safest to have worldwide consensus before US military power is used .

 

I'm not sure there's to many people that disagree Reorge was an idiot, but thats got little or nothing to do with the Israeli issue. Little bit of a bait and switch there. The point is that Iran is about to get its *** handed to it because they are making no bones about there desire to nuke Israel. And they seem perfectly willing to throw the whole region into chaos if they have to.

Claiming its solely a US problem when it was the entire UN that nearly unanimously voted for the creation of Israel is really not very realistic. Yes Israel is our major allie in the area but if I remember most of the Arab nations in the region aligned themselves with the Nazi's and then switched at the end of the war. We just didn't trust them much at the time and neither did the Europeans.

Obviously there's still a few trust issues.

Michael I agree but your never going to get a consensus, At best you get a lot of arguing.

 

No civilized country questions Israel's right to exist. Many civilized countries resent Israel's failure to negotiate and it provocative settlement building. This failure to find solutions is a result of the US military umbrella that emboldens the Israelis.

And remeber the concept of "US Allie in the region" implies foriegn intervention . Iran is complely surrounded by US Allies. This is the reason they feel so insecure and behave like a junkyard dog.

 

Part of it is, I'm not sure how much military stuff we outright give the Israelis but I know they buy a lot of it. In the beginning they bought a lot of old WW2 Sherman tanks and retrofitted them with better guns and armor. Used them right up till sometime in the late 70's if I remember. They also modify our old air planes and keep them in service forever. I'd say they would have survived just fine without us, but we'll never know. They have a really slick anti rocket defense system on there tanks now and they're developing there own anti missile missiles off the ones we sold them during the Iraq fiasco

ps
looks like neither of us can spell allie

 

I used to sympathize with the Israelites, but I agree with the post that they dont seem to want to negotiate.

Its only a small country, America could easily absorb them and build a new city in the desert,--its been done before.

And why not -they are white , speak English and house trained. Knowing jews a new city would be profitable in a few decades and pay taxes.

A lot cheaper than war with Iran which with the way America fights wars will be at least 20 years.

 

I think it is a bit of a stretch to consider Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, and Turkmenistan as "U.S. allies".

 

Not me.
Israel should be condemned for its repulsive treatment of Palestinians.
And Palestinian militias should be condemned for their murderous contempt
for innocent Israeli lives.

 

Well...you cant be going around condemning everything. Sooner or later you must find a solution.

 

Blindly favouring one side, while ignoring atrocities committed by the other, is
hardly likely to lead to a harmonious solution.

 

Greetings,

The Book of Revelations identifies earthly Jerusalem and those that partake with her as evil and corrupt. The New Jerusalem comes down from Heaven its government is the true inheritor of the earth.

Fear God and rightly consider your actions unless what you intend for others comes to fall upon you.

 

Ok..but all we are as citizens is Voters....who can we vote for to bring fresh air and ideas to the table and fix these problems ? Its a problem. The World genuinely needs a Statesman...these are hard to find. I see no statesman among the present group of world leaders.

 

Thats provocative nonsense. I dont believe in old books telling sea stories

 

All good things come from the Father in Heaven, through His Son Jesus the Christ, who bestowed the saints with power to do good.

Quantum Physics shows how thoughts in the mind transcend everything else and begin to reverberate throughout the earth "as a man thinketh, so he is".

Beliefs are arbitrary. What authority do you rest on? If your answer assumes man as god, it will fall.