How can a cheap American buy a HOUSE in the 1st. World ?

A fed sales tax to replace income tax has nice features, but how about folks with US incomes but live outside US? If you made this just a sales tax, how many rich would move to carribean, Mexico, Canada, Swiss alps, Itallian and French rivieras?

 

You're blindly repeating a coordinated talking point that Republicans are flooding the country with, and it's a cynically dishonest and misleading one.

To begin with, the annual US federal budget is a spending request by the President for the coming year, not anything produced by the Senate. In response to the President's budget, both Houses of Congress pass a multitude of individual appropriations bills. They've obviously been passing those bills as necessary, or the government would have shut down a long time ago.

There's no sense in me retyping all this stuff, when Wikipedia has already said it succinctly and accurately:

 

There aren't that many of them and they would be paying much higher taxes overseas. I'm talking the same tax on every product sold, maybe not 10% exactly, but certainly not over 18%, on everything from septic tanks to air fare and everything in between including fuel. No exceptions, nor carve outs or special excise taxes, just a straight simple tax on everything, including groceries and medicine.

And many fewer bureaucrats because no yearly or quarterly tax filing by anyone except to record/report sales taxes collected in the course of business.

 

Looks to me like those increases barely cover annual inflation -- which means the cap is basically holding steady, not rising.

 

This is so transparent it's laughable. People that treat me like an idiot, are IDIOTS! Ron Paul says Fed causes inflation by printing excess money. This clip says "Error! Unfair!" the Fed doesn't print money. It's the US Mint under the treasury dept. Who do they make this drivel for?
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/no-fed-does-not-print-money-just-explain-150433185.html

 

Reality check here: a low-income person needs almost every dollar just to survive. When you charge them a sales tax on everything they buy, you're cutting into their ability to buy food, put gas in the car, and pay rent.

Every flat tax proposal I've seen takes the load off the wealthy, and puts it on the poor. What's 'fair' about that? The people who make the most should pay the most, simply because the money has to come from somewhere and they have it.

 

Troy,
You have the right to your opinions. We agree on somethings, and disagree on others. Please don't accuse me of blindly repeating republican propaganda. If I have an opinion shared by republicans, then I salute them for being perceptive and inteligent. I salute democrats who agree with me on different opinions. And libertarians where we agree. I'm an independent. Part of the group each party hopes to swing to their side. They already know they have the party hardliners!

 

We agree! How smart you are!

Frequently their money comes from the sweat of others. Unfairness and inequity exists.

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/163347-senate-votes-unanimously-against-obama-budget

The presidents budget rejected 97 to zero? Republican obstruction? Senate also rejected House budget proposal?
Can't you see this Senate is dysfunctional?

 

If? IF? the democrats lose the senate and the house gains more republicans in november, will that indicate to you the american people are disgusted with this senate? And for good reason?
And if Obama loses election, what will that say?

Actually I expect ousting of most incumbents in november, regardless of party! You can quote me after november!

 

Value added tax , VAT, is a good way to raise revenue and a good way
to discourage consumption and become a producing country. . VAT need not harm low wage earners if the system is tweaked by lowering low wage earners burden elsewhere.

 

It is a good plan, but nobody likes it. In the urban south, it's not uncommon to see an unpainted, dilapidated house with a new top of the line ($30 grand) pickup truck in front. Skewed priorities maybe?

 

OK, a poor choice of words on my part and I apologize. I shouldn't have said you were 'blindly' repeating the 1000-day claim. I don't think you were doing so as an article of faith simply because Republicans are saying it, and I certainly don't believe you were trying to mislead us.

But it's a dishonest soundbite that doesn't stand up to scrutiny, the Republicans are flooding the country with it, and you accepted it and passed it on without verifying it.

 

Your gracious apology accepted and wasn't required.

Actually, this thread has turned into a political thread, and indeed the title "A cheap american...ect" doesn't have much to do with boat design anyway. I'm going to attempt to not instigate any more. Might be hard! So please forgive me too, for pushing buttons.

 

The Democrats voted with the Republicans as a procedural matter, because they knew they didn't have enough votes to override a Republican filibuster. I don't understand the details of the process, but apparently they were leaving their options open by doing so.

I agree the Senate is dysfunctional. But since Obama took office, most of that dysfunction has come almost completely from the Republican side. Although they're the minority party, they're voting as a solid bloc to thwart the Democrats any way they can, and attempting to dictate their own terms on even the most picayune of matters.

Historically, the Senate has been a more bipartisan and thoughtful House than the House of Representatives (as our founders intended), relying on consensus rather than brute numerical majorities by one party or the other. As the minority party, Republicans are taking advantage of Senate rules intended for that consensual approach, by refusing to cooperate on anything at all unless they get their way. They've turned the process into one of confrontation and brinkmanship instead.