How can a cheap American buy a HOUSE in the 1st. World ?

[Yobarnacle]

http://www.documentarywire.com/horiz...mentaryWIRE%29

Panspermia theory

[Yobarnacle]

Originally Posted by viking north

Yo-- My God Canada has no sex --but our national animal is the BEAVER

woot! woot! woot!

[Boston]

Originally Posted by CatBuilder

Yo, nearly every scientist is a "good" scientist. I had the pleasure of working with probably 200 or so over the course of a previous career at NASA. To a man (or woman), scientists operate along these lines:

1) Seek out the truth by developing a hypothesis and testing that hypothesis to see if it is correct or not. If the hypothesis was not correct (according to data obtained from emotionless experimenting, not feelings), the hypothesis is immediately scrapped. Trained scientists (I'm one of them) are seekers of truth. It's beaten into us from very early on in formal education. It's for this reason, a scientist will never come up with an idea, then try to find ways to support it. His peers will oust him. It is dead against the culture in the scientific community.

2) Sometimes, there is no hypothesis or a weak hypothesis. We simple don't know what the heck is going on. In that case, we would try to collect data, essentially grasping at straws and trying to make sense of the data to form a new hypothesis for #1 above.

Just like on the bridge or in the cockpit of a boat, there is a very definite culture. A protocol. A way of doing things. The difference is scientists are extremely, *extremely* precise in everything they do. It's the nature of the game.

Scientists don't get paid much. There are no "greedy" or "corrupt" scientists that last more than a couple months in the field. The scientific community is a very harsh place to work, actually. Your peers are evaluating you 24/7 and trying to poke holes in your work and more annoyingly, your intelligence. It's a constant battle of trying to prove who is smarter.

They will try out out do you and one up you. They will go through anything you develop or any hypothesis you come up with and try to disprove it by default.

Your work is not accepted as proven until you pass a peer review and everyone decides that what you claim is, without any doubt, true. The peers demand all of your data and everything involved in the experiments and will try to recreate anything they can to disprove you.

For those reasons, there are no corrupt scientists, like politicians or businessmen. You simply can't get away with it. You would be booted from the scientific community.

Lastly, there is one small "perversion" to science and it's this: Someone has to pay your salary as a scientist. Therefor, you are stuck working on projects that may not interest you. For instance, all of my life I had wanted to work on an "anti gravity drive", whatever, exactly, that might be.

After obtaining my education and starting at NASA, I found that I'd really never be able to work on that obscure area of Physics because nobody was willing to fund it. Case closed. Instead, I worked on building small spacecraft that measured the magnetic fields and plasma density between the Earth and Sun. It was great work, but not my ideal. That's the only place a scientist ever compromises. Ever.

Here is a quote from a favorite television show of mine that very accurately describes the life of a scientist. It is from a bio of a "professor" character that is a professional scientist in the show:

"After 14 years of graduate school, Farnsworth settled into the glamorous life of a scientist. Fast cars, trendy night spots, beautiful women - the professor designed them all, working out of his tiny one room apartment. "

Pretty well sums up the life of a scientist.

bingo, I made more money working my way through school as a small contractor than I ever would've as a even a PHD scientist. Eventually I saw that all but the absolute elite were still living off stale beer and cold pizza with the same drunken roomy they had "back in the day". Not exactly a glamorous life style. Not sure I made the right choice but I eventually just went with another contracting job, jobs in my chosen field of science were about as common then as the Dodo bird is today.

Its a ludicrous assertion by people who can't possibly have any real affiliation with the scientific community to say they are money hungry or corrupt, On the contrary, most are starving because of there principals.

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by Frosty

...The big eyes on butterflies wings were not made by god.

.......

Yes they were!

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by Frosty

No!! well you are just a monkey and before that a lizard --no offence mind you, I was'nt suggesting the hair on your face was monkey like but actually it is.

Doe;s a frog start off as a frog, or a butterfly!

You pick your ancestors and I'll pick mine.

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by viking north

Exactly- so are gators-crocks- sharkes --that funny named fish --old guys like you and I . Whats this monogamy--have to disagree there --primates are not naturally monogamus --this is a lifestyle choice, fear induced by some religions or cast iron frying pans

Hmmmm. My wife took me hunting for a cast iron frying pan today. Do you think something is up?

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by viking north

Yo-- My God Canada has no sex --but our national animal is the BEAVER

Go to Montreal. You can find it there.

[viking north]

One French woman is enough pour moi And in keeping with the thread In this house in this 1st. world country, otherwise the frying pan, mon ami .

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by hoytedow

Yes they were!

You are way down the line of knowledge, do you have a TV or a Library nearby.

I can explain in detail how butterflies wings have eyes on it and all other unusual markings such as black and white people.

Its quite simple when you can understand and will give you a refreshing outlook on life knowing where you came from and how things work.

Ive heard about the education system failure in USA but did not Know it was as bad as this.

It starts with something called mutation a natural phenomena of life on this planet, the back bone if you like of evolution.

If life can be prolonged by the mutation then the chances of it being passed through the genes are greater. This does not happen on a Tues afternoon but over millions of years.

Mongolism is an extreme form of mutation as is of no use to the human race and is not replicated quite simply by the fact that no one would want a child with a mongol.

This can be simply a wart on the nose where as a woman would not fancy a man with a wart on the nose and therfore we don't have them.

[Yobarnacle]

got any children, Frosty?
just curious if you're more charming in real life.

[troy2000]

The connections between dinosaurs and birds run deeper than just hollow bones and egg laying. Like feathers, for example. At least a dozen different genera of feathered theropod dinosaurs have been found....

Most are from the Yixian formation in China.

The fossil feathers of one specimen, Shuvuuia deserti, have even tested positive for beta keratin, the main protein in bird feathers, in immunological tests. Particularly well-preserved (and legitimate) fossils of feathered dinosaurs were discovered during the 1990s and 2000s.

The fossils were preserved in a Lagerstätte -- a sedimentary deposit exhibiting remarkable richness and completeness in its fossils -- in Liaoning, China.

The area had repeatedly been smothered in volcanic ash produced by eruptions in Inner Mongolia 124 million years ago, during the Early Cretaceous Period.

The fine-grained ash preserved the living organisms that it buried in fine detail.

The area was teeming with life, with millions of leaves and the oldest known angiosperms, insects, fish, frogs, salamanders, mammals, turtles, lizards and crocodilians discovered to date. The most important discoveries at Liaoning have been a host of feathered dinosaur fossils, with a steady stream of new finds filling in the picture of the dinosaur-bird connection and adding more to theories of the evolutionary development of feathers and flight.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles..._dinosaurs.htm

In other words, the connection is more than just half-baked speculation; there's serious evidence backing it up.

[Yobarnacle]

Originally Posted by troy2000

The connections between dinosaurs and birds run deeper than just hollow bones and egg laying. Like feathers, for example. At least a dozen different genera of feathered theropod dinosaurs have been found....



In other words, the connection is more than just half-baked speculation; there's serious evidence backing it up.

Thanks! I didn't know that. I don't have a problem with evolution. Evolution and creation can happily co-exist in my philosophy. even Panspermia, because the alien life that may have seeded earth was also , still, created by God.

Seems the evolutionists are the narrow minded ones can't abide creation.

The one conflict I do have is, NObody's making a monkey out of ME!
Anybody tries I'll go APE SH-T!

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by Yobarnacle

Thanks! I didn't know that. I don't have a problem with evolution. Evolution and creation can happily co-exist in my philosophy. even Panspermia, because the alien life that may have seeded earth was also , still, created by God.

Seems the evolutionists are the narrow minded ones can't abide creation.

The one conflict I do have is, NObody's making a monkey out of ME!
Anybody tries I'll go APE SH-T!

No one's trying to make a monkey out of you. We're part of the Hominidae -- an African great ape, and akin to gorillas, orangutangs, chimpanzees and bonobos. I no more have a problem with that than a thoroughbred race horse should have a problem with being related to donkeys and zebras, or a German Shepherd should have a problem with being related to dingos and coyotes. It's where you wind up that counts, not where you started.

There's no sense or purpose in believing there's some sort of impermeable firewall between humans and other animals that makes us completely unique. we're all God's creatures, and the differences between us and other species are mostly a matter of degree, rather than something fundamental.

Although if you stack up enough differences to enough degrees, the results can be pretty impressive.

[Yobarnacle]

I like occam's razor. The simplest explanation is the best. The difference between man and beast for Christians is the immortal soul. In some religions animals have them too. Not Christian.
I prefer God created us special, our spirit an image of his, and has special plans for us.
It's comforting and elevating.
it's also the simplest explanation.

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by Yobarnacle

I like occam's razor. The simplest explanation is the best. The difference between man and beast for Christians is the immortal soul. In some religions animals have them too. Not Christian.
I prefer God created us special, our spirit an image of his, and has special plans for us.
It's comforting and elevating.
it's also the simplest explanation.

What's so simple about deciding God picked only one of his creations to have a soul? Seems a little egocentric to me, and more unsettling than comforting. Like we were the only ones he cared about, and all the rest are just throwaways. I think if He's an infinite being, he has room for infinite love of all his creations....

If I have a soul, there's no doubt in my mind that my Beagles would have been given one too. And if they weren't, I seriously doubt I have one either -- or want one.

I repeat: we're all God's creatures. Have you ever been up close and looked a coyote in the eye? He looks right back, and there's a person behind those eyes. Not a human-type person (despite Walt Disney), and maybe not one as intelligent as you or me in some ways, but definitely a self-aware being.... can beings be self-aware yet have no soul?