Global Warming? are humans to blame?

[tom kane]

I don`t know what you guys are bothered about.Everybody has a terminal illness (old age) and everything has a use-by-date.So what is to worry about.Just enjoy.

[Poida]

Longliner there is seashells in your back yard because you trusted that smart talking real estate agent when he sold you that beachside block which is actually on the ocean side of the beach.

Poida

[longliner45]

there is a few things I want to talk to that realestate salesman about,,,,,one,,he didnt say the niegbours would have a fit about my boat being parked in my yard,,,,,while 40 ft rv s are everywhere,two ,,he didnt say the kids would never move out either,,,,,,,,,longliner

[tom kane]

There is an interesting picture of The Great White American Fleet in photo gallery.It was a tough job in those days and a little grubby for some.It will take some doing to get better than steam and new-clear-power for efficiency.

[Poida]

Tom I was under the impression from figures I read yonks ago that steam was highly inefficient, although what I read was in relation to locomotives.

Steam is only 7% efficient. That is it only provides 7% energy in motion in relation to the amount of energy used to produce the motion.

Poida

[alan white]

Originally Posted by Poida

Tom I was under the impression from figures I read yonks ago that steam was highly inefficient, although what I read was in relation to locomotives.

Steam is only 7% efficient. That is it only provides 7% energy in motion in relation to the amount of energy used to produce the motion.

Poida

Steam is inefficient as a conversion process, but what other engine uses only heat and water? The idea is that heat can be gotten from many sources, like solar focusing, for example. Solar electricity is only about 20% efficient at best, but you need wires. An array of inexpensive reflectors could run a stationary engine. The waste heat could be used to heat a home.

[Frosty]

Ahem --excuse me a moment--Alan --did you notice that Poida used the word 'Yonks' Do you know what this is? and if so what?

Sorry Poida but I dont think ******* use this word.

[tom kane]

www.nei.org/ is an interesting site.We will have to accept some risks if we want energy to stay warm and eat well.There is always going to be some impact whatever we do.

[longliner45]

yes tom ,but were do we put the nuclear waste,,it will add up eventually,and 3 mile island and trenolble,we are not as smart as we think we are ,,,,,yet,,,,,solar, wind and water,and geothermo,,,,longliner

[Poida]

Now the geeks reckon cows farting are causing a problem.

I give in.

Poida

[Frosty]

You know I read some where that at the turn of the century there was a lot of methane in the air due to animals. Apparantly New york and London had many horses, plus the plains of America with there herds of wild buffalo.Etc Etc.

So what was it like a million years ago with huge farting vegitable eating dinasours. Maybe thats why they died off, farted themselfs to death?

Its a theory? I dont see any one else coming up with any good ideas.

[tom kane]

With technology the problem lies with the ability of staff and management and shareholders of industries to accept a responsible role in carrying out their work safely.It is not technology at fault but human incompetance.I have seen plant working in multi- million $ factories and some parts of that plant never worked they way it was designed (basic heat exchanges).The fitters and turners did not know how it should work.I have seen company managers "instruct" electricians to reverse the rotation of electric motors on atomizers,designed to rotate in a specific direction.The rotation had been right for 12 years.It was lucky that it was not a nuclear plant or airport.It is difficult to stay employed and be accountable.

[Poida]

Hang on Tom
I'm a fitter and machinist and I design material handling systems and I always **** up.

OH ****!!

Poida

[alan white]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Ahem --excuse me a moment--Alan --did you notice that Poida used the word 'Yonks' Do you know what this is? and if so what?

Sorry Poida but I dont think ******* use this word.

Indians used the term "Yangeese" to describe early settlers in the new world, the north American continent. Likely Iroquois, Huron, and Mohawk and other tribes tribes all used the term. I am not sure what the term means in direct translation.

[longliner45]

yankee