Global Warming? are humans to blame?

If you hate CO2 you should love chlorophyll.

 

Of all the aspects of global warming, the MOST important is "What they plan to do."

The global warmers don't have any concrete plan that I've seen. What I am seeing is they want a blank check!

 

They also want blank minds in which to write their collectivist propaganda.

 

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That's heretical! Look at Bostons first post I recently quoted. According to him we are headed to another great extinction because of CO2!
Do you mean it was OXYGEN that caused the extinction?
That sir, is politically incorrect!

 

There are scientists and there are propagandists on both sides.

 

I agree.

 

There are goats and there are sheep. But then there are wolves who will eat both.

 

Watch who you're calling an old goat, Cabron!

 

Yes, it was. If you read the link, the plants that made it possible for us to live today developed first on Earth, before animals. In the early Earth there was no oxygen and none of us could have been alive.

As a society of organisms, the first life on Earth (plants) took in lots of CO2 and produced lots of O2, until they produced so much O2 that many of them died because they could no longer breathe the Earth's atmosphere.

I see a very similar graph on that link to some of Boston's graphs which show a rising CO2 level.

In other words, we might be on the same track as those plants were.

No plan to stop it here, no ideas, no agenda, but it's an interesting comparison. Warming aside, we could very well be on our way to destroying the atmosphere for animal life, just like that overpopulation of plants destroyed it for plant life. (well, at least for that kind of plant life - the ones that don't need to breathe much CO2 are around still)

The Earth finds a way to balance things out. We may be getting "balanced out" as a species at some point, if we look at the similarity between the Oxygen extinction and Boston's graphs. They are nearly identical.

 

I agree nature self regulates. It tried epidemics on us, but we're too good at isolating and controling desease. So now natures plotting a different resolution to over population. Is that your premise?

If so, can we escape and be among the survivors on our boats?

PS: I did read the link. I always read the links.

 

I'm flattered Yobi but you've already got my thoughts.

This is all simply more hot air!

Mankind will evolve whether we try to "fix" it or not.

In fact, if we do try it will probably screw things up even more.

Change rarely occurs on purpose, we couldn't organize ourselves out of a paper bag.

Change happens out of reaction and circumstance.

If oil went to $5000.00 a barrel over night, we'd see some significant changes by the end of next week.

At this rate of nickel and diming, it's death by a million cuts.

Pretty well ALL of our systems are not sustainable.

I really don't want to get into this vortex (TOO LATE), I just don't see the point.

Call me whatever names you like (not you Yobi, but others).

I believe only a global catastrophe will change our situation.

See you in the funny papers.

 

Well said Sub Tom--thats why I treat this thread with disrespect and toungue in cheek as I do. If I thought I could do anything I would not be writing here.

Some here think the prob is no more that the sun getting hotter, dancing round with feathers on a stick should cure that,--- or not maybe.

100 million barrels of oil burnt in one day is said or thought not to have any affect at.

And remember not many engines have more that 40% efficiency, that means 60 million barrels of oil just makes heat.

That doesnt do anything over the last 50 years ?????

Notice I did not even mention co2.

 

Why stop there??

Ive often wondered how much, in terms of weight, has been taken out of the ground in Gas, Oil, Iron ore and all the other minerals, and endless logging, that have fueled the industrial revolution in the past 2-300years. Of that weight taken out, how much of an affect this would have on the rotational inertia of the global and hence its relative location in space. Which as we all can agree on has an effect, such as winter/summer is an obvious example.

 

what if all that stuff was put there for us to find and use?

what if all the stars are for us too?

maybe by the time we've exhausted this world, we'll have others?
Talk about sustainable resources! How many stars are there?

 

I found Freeman Dyson's suggestion/solution amusing.
China is getting wealthy while producing large amounts of CO2.
The USA should allocate small areas to capture the CO2 using appropriate
land, park and forest management. The CO2 is delivered free (via the
atmosphere) and the USA can bask in its virtuous environmental record.