Global Warming? are humans to blame?

[Yobarnacle]

Originally Posted by whitepointer23

my son is right into it, i haven't tried it myself,

It's a beautifull game. I have used it for years at sea, as an escape from monotonous seascape.
Its a large virtual world with forests, mountains, deserts, swamps, and snowy landscapes to walk, run, or ride through.

They have changed the game to Cataclysm, a post apocalyptic world. I still play a more ancient prettier version.

[Submarine Tom]

Hi Jobi!

How's it going for you?

- . .

-Tom

[Boston]

He's been getting his ass handed to him by Frosty actually

looks like I didn't hit a button or something with my last

the winter of 2011/12 was something remarkable eh, temps 20 and 30 degrees F higher than normal, in NA. Yikes eh. Where's our deniers now ?

http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience...-up-in-europe/

[Yobarnacle]

Originally Posted by Boston

He's been getting his ass handed to him by Frosty actually

looks like I didn't hit a button or something with my last

the winter of 2011/12 was something remarkable eh, temps 20 and 30 degrees F higher than normal, in NA. Yikes eh. Where's our deniers now ?

http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience...-up-in-europe/

Oh Frosty has been trying.
Of course when he attacks then denies it's an attack, when he contradicts himself with suns temperature doesn't change but every school kid knows it's cooling annualy, and similar examples of integrity, I understand exactly why he feels at home in the warm-mongers clique.

temperatures in NA is weather didn't I read you say local phenomenon is just weather on many posts, Boston?
Integrity is the measure of a man. a nation. a company. a movement. a theory.

[Yobarnacle]

Originally Posted by Submarine Tom

Hi Jobi!

How's it going for you?

- . .

-Tom

I'm finer than frogs hair, thankyou. and you?

or in spanish, mejor que otras

[Submarine Tom]

Fantastico!

Thanks for asking.

Happy Friday to you sir.

-Tom

[Yobarnacle]

and to you, sir.

and happy thursday today

[Yobarnacle]

I have tried to point out what I believe is the agenda behind global warming and its socialist backers.
I have deplored both american political parties as tweedledum and tweedledee. Indistinguishable.
I have tried to explain my beliefs and perceptions and logic.
Who cares? Certainly I'm no special person that folks should flock to my banner. I don't have a private banner. I'm just one individual. I support all individuals rights. I'm an individualist. My intent was and is, for us not to be suckered in. Since I can't convince people of the dangerous path we are on, maybe someone else can. Those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it. Please check this out.

http://www.documentarywire.com/griff...ist-conspiracy

[hoytedow]

Yobarnacle, the suckers will remain suckers and suckers will be put on their knees where they belong.

[Yobarnacle]

Maybe. Hope they don't take us with them. Are you able to view the documentary, Hoyt?

[RayThackeray]

I don't see what "socialism" has to do with this. Science, not politics.

As for dangerous path - are you talking about the dangerous path of conservation?

Frankly, the more extreme you go (and it's getting pretty extreme) I forecast you're going to lose any supporters you may have for your conspiracy theory.

Originally Posted by Yobarnacle

I have tried to point out what I believe is the agenda behind global warming and its socialist backers.
I have deplored both american political parties as tweedledum and tweedledee. Indistinguishable.
I have tried to explain my beliefs and perceptions and logic.
Who cares? Certainly I'm no special person that folks should flock to my banner. I don't have a private banner. I'm just one individual. I support all individuals rights. I'm an individualist. My intent was and is, for us not to be suckered in. Since I can't convince people of the dangerous path we are on, maybe someone else can. Those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it. Please check this out.

http://www.documentarywire.com/griff...ist-conspiracy

[Boston]

Its just more drama, distraction, disinformation and disruption. Anything to avoid the actual science Ray. Lets get the thread back on track with something from NOAA as they describe our 4rth warmest winter on record in the US.

http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/vid...011-2012-recap

[Yobarnacle]

Originally Posted by RayThackeray

I don't see what "socialism" has to do with this. Science, not politics.

As for dangerous path - are you talking about the dangerous path of conservation?

Frankly, the more extreme you go (and it's getting pretty extreme) I forecast you're going to lose any supporters you may have for your conspiracy theory.

Ray
I have felt alone or nearly so, in my social/political views.
Only today, I discovered the documentary I posted.
Someone who has come to the same conclusions I have, and expresses them better.
I'm not suggesting a conspiracy of the majority of scientists, or the citizens who believe in any theory or ideology.

The socialist party DOES support global warming. I posted their website saying so.
The founder of Greenpeace resigned from Greenpeace because it was taken over by socialists. I can document that if you doubt it.

But socialist isn't the correct term, I learned only today. It's the collectivists.
Socialists are only one sect of collectivists.
People who believe society is more important than the individuals in that society. And they are willing to sacrifice individual freedom for the supposed good of society.

The conspiracy is among the elitists who control both american parties. And many governments in the world. They have power and want totalitarian power.
The agenda is a police stste.
Global warming is one more tactic to strip people of freedom and citizen power. To hasten that end.

Global warming is INDEED political.

The shenanigans with the data and propaganda and lies and exageration are exactly POLITICAL tactics. Not scientific ethics. I'm not belaboring science. Real science.
Would you consider for one minute, just maybe I'm right? And if I am?

I'm warning about politics posing as science!

[Boston]

in order for some of us to better understand the severity of this winters impacts, it might be best to actually read the information before beginning with the denial.

a few of the basics
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/...corded-history

The data show that this past winter was generally both warmer than average and drier than average for the lower 48 States. The average temperature across these states for December through February was 36.8 degrees F, nearly 4 degrees higher than the long-term average for U.S. winters from 1901 – 2000. Precipitation was down 12 percent on average, and when it came to snow, the United States experienced its third smallest winter snow-cover footprint—square miles of snow-cover, as measured by satellites—since recording began 46 years ago.

[Yobarnacle]

Originally Posted by Boston

in order for some of us to better understand the severity of this winters impacts, it might be best to actually read the information before beginning with the denial.

a few of the basics
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/...corded-history

So?
That's weather.