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Old 07-06-2009, 07:51 PM
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It's not "misdirected", hypocrite.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:21 PM
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He writes well and presents a well thought out case on the topic he is addressing but the content is strictly American and primarily considers the local readership and not from a global perspective - I look at the big picture and how things influence the rest of the world... Too many Americans feel the would ends outside the borders of the USA, and to be cheeky, it is in actuality the reverse...

From one of his book reviews (your second link), "...While nations differ, particular kinds of behavior produce particular kinds of results in country after country. Moreover, American society in recent years has been imitating behavior patterns that have produced negative-- and sometimes catastrophic-- consequences in many other countries around the world..." and concluding with "...Getting some clearer sense of what this risks is just one of many reasons to read "The Character of Nations"..." - - a pity the advertising is so distracting...

My time for reading is about 4 hours a day, (sometimes lots more), and I concentrate on economics matters and relevant political oversights - I do not link to my private subscriptions for obvious reasons... but they do influence my attitude and thinking in global terms...
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:38 PM
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mas you analogy of the escalator could possible be more accurate than even you would first imagine.

The escalator is going down till it reaches the bottom, but then as in banking it doubles back on itself and under the cover of darkness re appears at the top again.

Just a thought.

Boston I don't like statistics, never have, I don't read masses links either.

I watch Bloomberg Tv read the BBc and the Bangkok post and I can make my own weather cock.

If people realy could tell you whats going to happen we wouldn't be in this **** now.

China has been the worlds leader for 3000 years and was probably the founder of America before anyone thought about it.
They invented the gun which has been improved on little in time.

Im not going to worry about the Chinese because they have a government that acts,--as quick and as draconian as is necessary.

The West may not like that --human rights etc etc, but they do what they have to do, unlike ours.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:02 PM
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no worries
the BBC is one of my best sources
hey speaking of which send me a link for the Bangkok post
Ild like to check that one out some time

I pretty much live by statistics ,averages and patterns
things like that is what make day trading work
at least for me

its also what makes science fly
and given that Ive a science degree
its just what Ive been brought up on

although I did finally land a fat remodel that gives me some real work to do and check this these folks just bought a second home ( in Colorado at least they have at least one each in San Fran as well )
just had a meeting with em and they are all about getting after "the Cabin" soon as Im done with the primary residence so Im back to working with my hands for a while which I would much prefer over rolling dice

China has never been a power house like Japan or Germany has been for so long
I kinda agree that they are burning out there population buy screwing with the fertility rate the way they have
so they could be facing some interesting challenges in the near future
seems that even if you consider they have a surplus you have to ask what that equates to per capita and what the needed improvements in services it will take to sustain there growing and aging population
or will they do what China has traditionally done
consider the public expendable for the greater good
( of the dictator )

my prediction is that a significant percentage of manufacturing consumed here after the fall ( hyperinflation ? ) will have to return here
no two ways about it
there just wont be the money to do anything else
hell Im even planning on buying a band saw mill for the shop
( always wanted one of those and given what Im about to spend on this next hard wood order I could just buy that dam saw and do it myself )

my bet is the economists round here have there eye out for signs of hyperinflation and have a strategy to keep it under control
or at least Ild like to think they do

on the other hand given the fools we have in power lately
you never can be sure
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:48 PM
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:49 PM
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:16 AM
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Boston, you'll save on just the kerf, not to mention quarter sawing, custom cutting, etc.. Beware of volcanic ash (the bark of our stuff is full of it here)! 'Nother blade, 'nother blade, 'nother blade...
As far as checking hyper-inflation... no matter what the ass-holes with the graphs and formulae suggest, there is but one way to see long-term inflation - printing currency. There is no dark science and they know exactly what they are doing when they do it.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:52 AM
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ya I think I was looking at a 20% savings per log from a chainsaw mill to a band mill
but the chain saw mill I can get carbide tipped blades
I used em after my first logy cost me about a steal blade a day to carve up
the carbides I can get without brush guards which works great for log work
they sweep out the copes cleaner without em



my bet is a steal band blade will last about a day if I dont break it first
$20~$40 bucks a blade depends on how wide the throat is
and what type I end up getting
a carbide chain saw blade will cost me about two bills
or maybe seven steal bands if you want to look at it that way
I need to look into that some more but Im leaning towards the band mill even though I dont think I can get decent blades
not sure
my Grand Dad old Robby had a mill at the place in Vermont but it was the old school stationary circular blade type with the biggest blade you've ever seen in your life on it rigged to a tractor pto
was the biggest pain in the ass imaginable


as for these fools in charge round here actually knowing what they are doing Im not convinced
speaking of which what the hell is Palin think she is doing .quitting like that
not going to look good for her run for office if you ask me
she would have been better off sticking it out
whatever not trying to rub any salt or nothing but hey
doesnt seem like the slickest of moves

the trade deficit needs immediate attention
and the vast amounts of cash held overseas is a wild card if you ask me
the solution basically requires they take money out of circulation in step with inflation or add it in the case of deflation ( I think we are still in a deflationary mode )
which they generally do with the feds interest rates
but these days those rates are zero
not much fudge factor there
only place it can go is up which does tighten the money supply but wasnt it loosening the money supply that is the main thrust of dumping trillions into the market in the first place
and so the fear that if you remove the checks on inflation fighting deflation you end up with a good chance of a wild fire of inflation
once money is in the market place its hard to remove
specifically once its overseas
and thats were it seams most of ours is going
thus the expectation were screwed
with little ability to control the value of the dollar overseas
( other than by manipulating the markets )
and with little ability to buy back dollars here at home
what else can happen but inflation
whatever they got up there sleeve better be good
cause frankly I dont have any more faith in Obummer than I did in Reorge

oh hey
I got sorta shot on the fourth
some fool threw a bunch of 30 cal blanks into the fire at our party and as I was shielding the girl from the flying casings one of em caught me in the leg
barely penetrated but still left a lovely circular bruise with a nice whole in the middle
looks just like a gun shot wound but was from the wrong end of the shell
left a hole in my new jeans
needless to say we threw the jack ass out

I lived
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:11 AM
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boston, are you fer real?
a steel(notice sp) in a band saw blade lasted us for months cutting al al? so what the ferk are you on abt?
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:30 AM
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ya Im for ( notice the spelling ) real
every blade I own is carbide
steel ( never could spell for **** ) is the cheep **** the manufacturer sends you with the saw
steel chain saw blades last about less than a day and you're cutting circles by then at that
that old blade up at Robby's place in vermont needed to be sharpened about every other day and that was pushing it
one even small rock later and it was toast
steel in a skill saw lasts about a day if you dont hit anything (nails)
steel in a router lasts about a minute
steel in a sawsall last a few hours at best
you want a nice straight cut
try carbide
you might be surprised
my bet is you dont cut much if you have to ask what Im on about

if your used to smoking blades and swimming cuts I suppose your going to go on about the virtues of steal
you go right ahead

Ill be making nice straight cuts with nice sharp blades
apparently something you are not to familiar with

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ps there Swish
I cut that entire house pictured above with myself and one other guy each with a Husky 346 xp super and one carbide blade
although I had extras we didtnt need to change blades at all
do you have any clue how many steel blades Ild have gone through without the carbide
or how much time Ild have waisted changing blades and picking up or dropping off blades 30 miles away down in town
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:36 AM
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boston, what zacckly have you been smokin:::
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Hey do you remember the the link I sent you, THE EDUCATION OF LITTLE TREE?
And prey when do you sleep?
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:49 AM
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I read that book years ago
about thirty years ago
good book

I dont sleep much

who am I following and all I know is you seem to like steel over carbide
not a popular selection among fine woodworkers or rough cutters
stuff simply does not last and once cooked doesnt hold an edge for ****

not following anyone but my own
seems the rest have there agendas
Ill stick with history and experience

whats up anyway
havent seen you round these parts for a while

oh
my shop band saw has a Simonds blade in it
if you think you were getting good longevity and a clean cut try one of there carbide blades
will open up a whole new world for you
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:32 AM
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You must have still have half of the mount St Helens in you lumber.. and maybe a quarter of Oklahoma in the big ones..
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:00 AM
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nah
I buy mostly from the hillbilly mills not much closer than Missouri and some as far as the Adirondacks or Appalachia
but nearly always east of here

depends on what wood Im after
try cutting curly walnut or birds eye maple with a dull blade though
like any other self respecting woodwright I dont like having to stop constantly to change out smoking warped steel blades
or deal with the crappy cuts

not sure how this even became a question but Ill go with a decent blade any time
ends up saving money
and giving better work

if you guys are going to try and tell me that steel is the blade of choice then I think I can safely conclude you have no idea what you are talking about
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:21 AM
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I think whoosh may have been referring to a boat building material as he seems to favour boats with metal....

I am loosing interest in posting on economic matters - sort of like looking at a dog that has been squashed by a truck and the dog seems to refuse to die - bloody agony to watch.... Well sometimes the US economy seems like that dog - I need a break, so I intend to concentrate on building my boat - until something interesting comes along - in the form of economics news - then I will find that I cannot resist sharing my thoughts
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