Global economic situation for liveaboard cruising yachties

[Senad]

Good to see that the truth hurts even if it is not reaching what doesn't exist: your brain.

Originally Posted by mark775

Case in point -you, Sinead, are an *******. For others reading, That war was distorted by both sides (speaking of - how long have they been combatants?)

also, I think most do not have a problem with anyone's religion, per se, excepting when someone uses that religion as an excuse to strap a bomb on and blow up people in a market, for example. Those that stand by and allow it to happen are as guilty as the creep that actually ties the bomb to... a recent example was using a Down's syndrome kid as a bomb carrier. Sorry but for all the arguable problems in the West, a mind that would think of such an atrocity or abet it is not remotely welcome here (well, not in my circle).

That is exactly my point. There is another retarded person who can, and should, be held responsible for strapping the bombs on people and sending them to death for his religious fanatism. Bush the criminal.

He is after all the one who, like every good fanatic christian cried "crusade"!!!

So your arguments, as stupid as they are, do not hold any value.

But, you think you have the right to insult people to make your point, so enjoy. Your personal insults are only proving your inadequacies. Most of all, your mental (since intellectual do not apply to someone this primitive) inadequacies.

Originally Posted by Senad

Neither of the two actually know what you are talking about. DO I need to remind you that your country went against the Serbs to "defend" the muslim Albanians in Kosovo? ANd in the process carved out a peace that historically was ALWAYS Serbia and was NEVER Albanian?

Such is the pover of self-delusion, fueled by ignorance and misconstructed image of the world that maybe lies outside of the boundaries of your own country. At least in your minds...

Hypocrisy at its' best.

Well noted!!! 100 points...........





Though not the way you understand it! YOU are the liar!

Before you go to blame others for being ultranationalists, ignorant and stupid, you should return back to school (this time in a civilized country) and learn history!

Kosovo Polje or better albanian: Fushë Kosovë, formerly Dardania, was ever and will be ever, ALBANIAN HOME COUNTRY.

The Dardanian or Illyrian lived there since 4000 years (even in the southern part of todays Serbia). Sometimes under Bulgarian Regentship, later part of Byzanz.
With Zupan Stefan Nemanja a vasall of Byzanz, started the regentship of the Serbs in Illyria and especially near Pristina. The 1389 battle of Amselfeld (Kosovo Polje) has seen a Alliance of the Albanian, Serbs and Bosnian against the Ottoman. Later the Serbs claimed to have fought the battle, although it was lost.
That founded the historically false view of a "Serbian" region. It was just occupied, nothing else.

And before you start name calling, and mix up nationalities, I am a German, no roots in the Balkan region, sorry.

[masalai]

mark,
- - - "Those that stand by and allow it to happen are as guilty as the creep that actually" as are those who do nothing about the illegal behaviour in their own country USA, as in massive global institutionalised fraud, market manipulation, theft, breach of the constitutional guarantee of freedom of expression and other laws, abrogation of fiscal responsibilities in operating the reserve/trading currency of the world and hundreds of more key issues that must be sheeted home to the slack attitude to illegal behaviour that is endemic inside USA... You have tarred yourself with your own brush...
I am only commenting on this thread... Nearly all who are posting the information do so for sharing and a broader view... Some in abject arrogance and ignorance persistently attempt to belittle, insult, use demeaning words, curse the individual in a manner seemingly acceptable only in "USA the depraved", who insist on using the word "*************" as an insult to others... How sick one must be to even think in such degenerate terms...

"uses that religion as an excuse to strap a bomb on and blow up people" - - USA representatives do it with rifle and other weapons with the same devastating effect on civilian life... sometimes even using unmanned aircraft with no more thought than "Oops"... Again hauled by your own petard...

"The fact of the matter is, if government were reigned in to necessary services" - - So where is your political and community activism? sitting at home watching Oprah on TV - - Shock horror Oh mark, You do look kinda cute in that dress, but not my type or style of face or clothing, You seem to look a bit Obama-esq?

[masalai]

Below the baseline, (make of it what is reasonable and fair for survival at the lower income levels in various regions/districts) these people keep their receipts and send them to the tax office for a full rebate of the GST paid... and use 10% or 20% GST (General retail-level Sales Tax) should be adequate (need to calculate National retail sales and from that, identify the revenue needed... It would become an election issue) - - All politicians work voluntarily... Medical litigation is forbidden or litigation needs to demonstrate gross incompetence or gross dereliction of duties to succeed and then only for related costs... There are some broad ideas that may provide a basis on which to expand for a total legislation re-write...

[masalai]

http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayGsd.php "Marc Faber Says 'Sky Will Be The Limit' for Rising Gold Price"
http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayCdd.php?id=281 "Ghosts of Inflation Past"http://www.gata.org/node/8050 "Russia will keep its gold at home"
http://www.gata.org/node/8051 "Jim Rickards: If gold is money again, it goes to between $4,000 and $11,000" - - - Yeee Haaaar

[masalai]

http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/ free email service

The Lloyd's Prayer

Our Chairman, who art at Goldman
Blankfein be thy name
The rally's come
God's work be done
On earth as there's no fear of correction
Give us our daily gains...

Poor Goldman Sachs. Everyone is on its case. Criticizing. Carping. Jealous. Envious.

So, today we rise in defense of the Wall Street giant. Yes, the Goldmen may be shysters. But they are honest shysters...

[Tcubed]

Mas you migt want to look at this;
(Australian politicos to shun any kind of proactiveness in regards to upcoming energy shortages)

http://anz.theoildrum.com/node/5977#more

[bntii]

Originally Posted by masalai

Leave the war dead lie in peace, and respect them for what good they thought they did...

Provide perhaps the same epitaph for your own countrymen, I wouldn't.

Ignorance is the mortar of a house built by fools.

[masalai]

TTT,
You have discovered All politicians are from the bottom of the tree of life - - - one step above amoeba... My motto for politicians is to have NO EXPECTATIONS... Then you won't be disappointed... Be prepared to instigate lots of noise to keep them on the right track (they seem to prefer the path of least resistance)...

[masalai]

bntii,
Think carefully of what is written, and it goes for nearly ALL wars - 'seemed the right thing to do at the time', would not be far off the consensus of many, long, long after from returning from a conflict... As you age you too may come to a view, that is something similar, when the actual pain of lost comrades and injuries may be less confronting in the rest of a life...

[Senad]

Originally Posted by apex1

Well noted!!! 100 points...........


Though not the way you understand it! YOU are the liar!

ANd you expect me to call you names because? Oh, because you have already taken that "privilege" into your hands and expect me to be just as primitive and rude to you.

Before you go to blame others for being ultranationalists, ignorant and stupid, you should return back to school (this time in a civilized country) and learn history!

Kosovo Polje or better albanian: Fushë Kosovë, formerly Dardania, was ever and will be ever, ALBANIAN HOME COUNTRY.

The Dardanian or Illyrian lived there since 4000 years (even in the southern part of todays Serbia). Sometimes under Bulgarian Regentship, later part of Byzanz.
With Zupan Stefan Nemanja a vasall of Byzanz, started the regentship of the Serbs in Illyria and especially near Pristina. The 1389 battle of Amselfeld (Kosovo Polje) has seen a Alliance of the Albanian, Serbs and Bosnian against the Ottoman. Later the Serbs claimed to have fought the battle, although it was lost.
That founded the historically false view of a "Serbian" region. It was just occupied, nothing else.

And before you start name calling, and mix up nationalities, I am a German, no roots in the Balkan region, sorry.

I do not know where to start laughing at your "civilised country education" my dear sauerkraut. You are just as ignorant as your friend mark. And just as free to insult someone just because you think you can...You do not deserve to be pointed into the right direction because you would not see one even if shown, but here are some details for those holes in your "civilised country education". Of which you have destroyed every word and every reference of each word to yourself so skillfully I can only clap my hands in approval.

First your "albanian" name is merely a translation of the real name of the region. It is not actual name if only because the word "kosovo" is genitive form of the slavic word "kos" which means "blackbird". "Kosovo" means "blackbird's", and "polje" means "field".

The fact that albanians call it "Kosovë" CLEARLY shows WHO was the first to give it the name and who usurped it.

Further to your ignorant comments, Albanians are not Illirians. Had you ever heard about genetic analysis, you would have heard that Albanians are genetically a part of the Calabrian native population that moved into what you know as Albania in Roman times. Hence the name ALBAnia - the land of the dawn. Or the land from where the dawn comes, if you prefer more poetic translation. Alba means dawn in latin. Illyrians have always lived up the coast all the way to the Velebit mountain northwest of city Zadar, and there are some traces even further north. Illirians dissappeared as people in Montenegro when the last queen (what was her name genius? Teuta you galic head.) lost her battles against the Romans and hid, according to the legend, some gold and silver in a cave near Herceg-Novi. They have never left a single trace in Albania. There are theories, but no evidence that Illirians have ever lived further down the south.

Feel dumb yet? Good, but I am not done with you, my friendly sauerkraut. More of your ignorance:

The Dardanian or Illyrian lived there since 4000 years (even in the southern part of todays Serbia). Sometimes under Bulgarian Regentship, later part of Byzanz.

Well first, professor, it is Byzant, not Byzanz as you repeatedly write...Then, bulgarian "regentship"...where on earth have you heard that nonsense. Bulgaria was only ever a big country under Samuilo, and that was a short-lived "empire. VERY short. In the meantime, Serbian kingdom and empire lasted long before and after Samuilo.

Balkan Dardania (there are many Dardanias) was in the area ABOVE the Kosovo Polje, you turd. Almost central Serbia. Nothing to do with Kosovo. Calling you ignorant is not an insult. It is merely a statement of your extremely low knowledge levels which you so arrogantly display to the world here.

The 1389 battle of Amselfeld (Kosovo Polje) has seen a Alliance of the Albanian, Serbs and Bosnian against the Ottoman.

My dear friend...this is from wikipedia article written by some fanatic albanian. The historical chronicles from even Turkish sources confirm that the "christian" forces included 30 000 Serbs, 10 000 Croats, a few (5 to 7 000) Bosnian Serbs and there were symbolical presences by Hungarians and Poles. Albanians were not a nation nor a country and those few peasants, descendants from Calabrian settlers (calabrian language today is almost identical to albanian. and there are no albanian settlers in Calabria) did not take part in the war. Some may have ended up as soldiers in Serbian army, as Serbian kingdom was stretching all the way to the Adriatic back then.

And the fact is that it took Turks 100 years to recover from the battle and try to re-conquer the part of "christian" Europe.

I'll also draw your attention to the genetical studies done on the territory of Yugoslav republics in the past few years. Every single one had confirmed that today's "Albanians" are a mixture of Calabrian descendants, Slavs and a few and far in between Illyrians. On the other hand the native gene of the Balkans, the I gene (Illyrian gene) is predominantly found among the Serbs, the Bosnians (mixture of Serbs and Croats), the Croats and Macedonians. The percentage of Illyrian genes are from 33% to 75%.

So you can scream your lies to heavens, but the science is telling us that the only liar here is you.

By the way, albanians have never had their state until the end of the WWII. And 90% of them have always lived near the sea because they came by the sea. They came to Kosovo Polje when Turks took them to work in the gold, copper and coal mines in 16th century. Well documented in turkish books of the time. So go and read before you post your ignorance again. Because Serbs and Croats are the real Illyrians,not your albos. Genetical research has confirmed that. Would you like some links to the research?

Apologies to other members, but this apex (I'd delete the "x". it's not appropriate) saurekraut asked for a lesson in history. I will not continue this debate even if he responds with more of his schizofrenic "history" as it does not belong into the theme of the thread.

[masalai]

We had a major Internet outage in out region some 2000 services not working in 15 exchanges (the phones were OK just broadband was stuffed) - - heard on the grapevine that Telstra may loose control of the "landlines" - - reverting back to Government ownership (Thank Goodness)... In the past 5 properties, we have paid for the telephone link to a "concentrator" exchange and the biggest part (outside the house was "given" to Telstra... This issue of access and how much will be resolved by such a sensible move as the landlines are part of community infrastructure as is water reticulation & sewerage.... Someone is bound to "howl down" this but I feel for Australia is GOOD as there are HUGE distances to consider...

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/ed...2009/1119.html a very interesting perspective but..... (right at the end is an image mark will appreciate)
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/ed...2009/1119.html "“Pumping the US economy with money is like pumping a geriatric full of ******. We should not lose sight of the fact that, at the end of the day, a geriatric on ****** is still a geriatric.”"
http://www.financialsense.com/editor...2009/1119.html " What If They Stop Buying Our Debt?" - - Catastrophy

Senad
falemin dherit shume, but

Oh, because you have already taken that "privilege" into your hands and expect me to be just as primitive and rude to you.

Nono Srbsk, not as rude, you have proven already you are better in that discipline, and especially being primitive too!

>>>you should return back to school (this time in a civilized country) and learn history!<<<
Not what your leaders liked to tell you!

You are wrong in almost every single case!
And I do´nt use wiki nonsense....I get my knowledge at the places I´m talking. From people who know, not "believe" what happened.

More than 15.000 Albanian people live in Calabria since centuries...and they came from Albania.
Albanian ARE of Illyrian roots, or at least assimilated the Illyrian remainders and language.
Albanian language is one of the five "language forming" languages in Europe, and not related to any other. Yes I speak Albanian (and some others).

Bulgarian leaders had the power centuries before the first Serbian clan chief fell from his tree.

Byzanz is Byzanz in Byzanz, where I am at present..........
of course some premature societies, like the serbian, spell it different...

for the rest: stay dumb, ignorant, fanatic and agressive, thats old tradition in your country.......

[Landlubber]

Mas,
"To quote our Pauline Pantsdown, and her namesake, Ms Pauline Hanson, a good partner for mark & politician of some notoriety in Australia, "Please Explain"...

you obviously copy and paste all the media has to say....have you EVER read directly what she had to say, not what she was "quoted" as saying......I think you may be surprised at just how badly she was treated...the two parties running this country CANNOT allow anyone speaking the truth to get into power...read some of her work directly mate before you quote like a parrot...it makes you look like a gala.

[Landlubber]

Mas,

You love wacking off at the USA because you are loosing money on your Pandas and other gold as Mark describes your "investments"....you say that the USArians are a bunch of dead heads, yet what about Australians....

...do you really think this is acceptable....

Subject: From - Ross Greenwood of Money News (I haven't checked the sums but
the drift is there)


Right now the Federal Government is at pains to tell everyone –
including us the mug-punters to the International Monetary Fund that it
will not exceed its own, self-imposed, borrowing limits. How much? $200
billion.

And here's a worry. If you work in a bank's money market operation; or if
you are a politician; the millions turn into billions and it rolls off the
tip of the tongue a bit too easily.

But every dollar that is borrowed, some time, has to be repaid. By you,
by me and by the rest of the country.

Just after 5 o'clock tonight I did a bit of maths for Jason Morrison.
But it's so staggering its worth repeating now. First though ... here's
what Chairman Rudd has been saying about - what he calls - these
temporary borrowings. Remember those words ... temporary deficit . but
the total Government debt could end up around $200 billion.

So here's a very basic calculation ... I used a home loan calculator to
work it out .... it's that simple.

$200 billion is $200,000 million. The current 10 year Government bond
rate is 4.67 per cent. I worked the loan out over a period of 20 years.

Now here's where it gets scary ... really scary.

The repayments on $200 billion come to more than one and a quarter
billion dollars - every month - for 20 years. It works out we - as
taxpayers - will be repaying $15.4 billion in interest and principal
every year .... $733 for every man woman and child - every year.

The total interest bill over the 20 years is - get this - $108 billion.
And remember, this is a Government that just 18 months ago had NO debt ..

NO debt. In fact it had enough money to create the Future Fund to pay
the future liabilities of public servants' superannuation ... and it had
enough to stick $20 billion into the Building Australia Fund last year

....