Global economic situation for liveaboard cruising yachties

[Boston]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Of course it is, un winable , Vietnam all over.

The Septics dont know how to fight a war, they destroy infrastructure, then they have to stay on to clean up a mess that gets worse, rape a few while they are at it.

I was one for going into Irag and still believe it was the thing to do at that time. The government should have been taken away and executed against a wall that same day instead of making a big fuss over it years later.

Had an election then walked away.

England was one of the most brutal colonizers of countries but look close they did'nt destroy the people, only the governments, hung em in the square.

Even the Germans in the 2nd world war had soldiers on street corners in France making SURE people went to work. The country was'nt annihilated like the septics do.

Social life continued, night life etc, perhaps in an effort to curb sabotage but what ever.

Look at the septics,-- bomb,crash, bang --hospitals , power stations, its no wonder the Iraqies wanted Sadam back.

am really hung over today and would have just given you points on this one but the dam thing wont let me

The USA has a slightly different view of war than a lot of other countries do as you may have guessed
I believe it was Sherman who dreamed up total war where everyone and everything is fair game
If I remember right he absolutely demolished the Shenandoah valley one of the most beautiful places on earth
course the south to this day is still not on an economic par with the north but the concept of rebuilding is haphazardly practiced at best

it should come as no surprise that people dont like having there country occupied, who would. Its un-winnable because we are the invaders. After all Liberators go away eventually and the faster the better. Invaders pay off or kill the existing government and set up there own puppets as well as build gigantic military bases intended for permanent OCCUPATION.

ps
hows my spelling today Mark

[hoytedow]

Could use an apostrophe in the word hows. I'm not Mark, but thought I'd invade this thread like my g.g. grandpappy did the South during the War of Union Aggression.

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[masalai]

By holding MASS RALLIES, "Civil disobedience", and generally be "revolting"... - so much so that the powers that be **** themselves, call out the home guard and national guard and military, only to find out that the "foot-soldiers are also on the side of the "revolting masses"

As was demonstrated in the Phillipines to depose the Marcos regime - PEOPLE POWER... fricken ell are you totally bereft of any leadership, initiative, moral responsibility, capacity to network and seek out like minded/sympathetic people via facebook/chatrooms/blogs, talking to people, putting up a plackard on your front lawn - - ALL these things held as "free speech" in the land of the once free, - now paranoid&fearful.... Stop waiting and expecting "big-brother" to pat you on the head saying "there there little one we will make things right" get up and use the spirit and do it your fuckin selves WTF I am guessing the extreme may come to pass before anyone shifts from their moribund complacency...

[masalai]

Geees mark, found your magnifying mirror and tweezers for a good wanking session of drivel - You have posted in the wrong thread, would you be needing assistance to copy & paste to one of the two threads that would be more appropriate to such inane drivel?

Oh - excuse you, - that was the standard prescribed format of "a paid political announcement", the standard to be expected, support for the present government and since there is nothing good to be said there, trash, insult, slander and defame everyone else... You poor sorry excuse for a cretinous ********...

[Landlubber]

mark775,

Good one mate, nice to get a belly laugh, something that unfortunately does not happen all that often anymore.

Ta, John

[masalai]

http://www.gata.org/node/8027 "Iranian central bank's coin sale bursts 'gold bubble'"
http://www.gata.org/node/8028 "NY Fed chief contemplates pre-emptive bailouts"

[Sean Herron]

Hello...
Geezus - I would not want to offend any table and chair killers or those who like to take over 747's and try to muck about with highly backed up international financial records and believe something was accomplished...
**** - I used to scrape my fingernails against the slate - but all that was accomplished was nothing - save not getting laid on field trips...
Yup...
I am the - 'not so sentient' - one - as always...
What is next - from these sand grubs - who studied in our best Universities - without the real need to make a grade point...
SH.

[Frosty]

I give mark full points for that --not real rep points just verbally--. It would appear that he is trying to sound intelligent and educated like his buddies here on the forum, bless him hes trying. In fact I would say Mark is very trying.

Well at least he has given up ranting in big red capital letters!! it looked like crayon to him, which is what he normally writes in.

[Boston]

something tells me there were several references to I in that last bit of funnies from the Mark man.

amazingly enough he was right though about one thing
I really was not after a degree nor really cared about credits
I just took whatever I wanted and left it at that
you might have correctly guessed that English was not one of my chosen studies

[Sean Herron]

Hello...
I will make my own costume...
I actually read that Mark bit - my God I could do a mickie right now - and come out good...
SH.

[Frosty]

Don't put yourself down Boston , you are one of the more better writers on the forum.

[masalai]

Frosty, I will second that motion, anyhow, spelling, schemilling Americans can't do either, and many seem unable to express themselves coherently, but Boston, Frosty, Bamby, hoytedow, Landlubber, sean, and many others seem to be able to communicate effectively - after that WTF????
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http://www.moneymorning.com.au/ has this as the lead in their email
""" Gold about to leap past $5,000? - - Forget the talk of gold's all-time highs. It hasn't even matched its inflation-adjusted best - yet! But it could easily do that - and more - in 2010. - - There are more buyers of gold now than sellers. That alone will push the price UP - quickly... possibly by as much as 457%. """

http://www.gata.org/node/8029 "When it comes to gold, history itself wears a tin-foil hat"

[masalai]

http://www.gata.org/node/8031
http://www.gata.org/node/8030 - - huh reading between the lines I wonder which path to take??? since the FED is the main manipulator????? will it sucker the market-to-buy-gold, then crash-gold-and-reap-the-profits, or up-the-price-of-gold to crash-the-US$ and help pay-off-the-US$-debts of the FED from earlier plays-to-suppress-gold/boost-US$, - - plays, that have come to an end and need to be recouped??? - - - I think they will get just ONE chance so probably, - - - - both....
http://www.gata.org/node/8032 "Peter Brimelow: Gold bugs say it's not over" - - - What idiots? - - - It is the US$ collapsing, Gold has remained steady to down a bit since March 2009 - Read my lips - US$ collapse : gold is steady to down a bit.... SHEEESH wake up USA...

[masalai]

I just had a look at the original intentions of this thread
Global economic situation for liveaboard cruising yachties
Has recent economic developments impacted on your liveaboard lifestyle as a cruising yachtie....

Do you sense significant changes must be made? - - How will you continue to practice your "cruising Yachtie lifestyle"

Does the economic changes we are experiencing, give you different ideas as to cruising grounds and type of cruising boat as your "liveaboard"....

Please keep it to practical stuff that your experience has determined... (no dreams or fanciful wish lists please as most cruising yachties are NOT mega rich or even a bit wealthy - apart from their boat and lifestyle)

How do you plan to meet some of the possible future challenges, such as fuel needs, income generation, maintenance, spares, repairs use of non-chandlery sourced equipment and gear?????

The reason? - I am about to commence building a Bob Oram 39'C and figure any expertise anyone how is cruising may wish to share would be useful to me and many other cruising members....

I will bore you all with copy and paste of the topic for discussion here. - please keep it relevant to the thread as I lost a lot of useful links kept in Global politics & economics etc when it was deleted because of certain intolerant petulant behaviour from, I gather usanians who do not believe in free speech or opinions other than their own should have space....

Boy, have things changed... I am quite pessimistic as to my fiscal capacity to "cruise globally", and feel that economic pressures will limit wandering to just several thousand miles from the "main island", Australia... I may get as far as India, Thailand, Malaysia/Borneo, Melanesian Island Nations and NZ, mainly because of money (lack thereof) and difficulty in picking up some extra income during extended visits...

Big questions have not been resolved - -
US debt creation... When will it end and will the debt ever be paid back more than 600TRILLION
The consequences of this burden is the Global economic downturn... Who Will recover, Who will fail, and Who PAYS
When will the causes be set right/removed... Sheeting home the blame to the perpetrators, removing the opportunities to return to the catastrophic behaviour that started the boom bust environment - - - Keynesian thought is WRONG)...
While we are solving the problems of the world, reduce the size of government, and taxation to 10% of sales (as a general sales tax -GST?) and a "tithe" of another 10% restricted to charitable, social services, food and clothing for the poor everywhere in the world...

What else? - - - NO military - - - police and courts are part of the first 10%... Political service is an UNPAID community service...

Economically, Gold has not risen in value, it is just that the US$ has fallen... along with a few other currencies...