Global economic situation for liveaboard cruising yachties

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  1. Frosty

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    You don't say!!!, if you watch movies you would think so, forget the history books no one can read in the US anymore.

    Example U571 movie, the enigma machine, your Hollywood shows that this was an American success. ******** this was the British but Hollywood twisted it as you tend to do. It does say so in the credits right at the end.

    Was America the only country to take over Iraq, again you would think so.

    There were many tens of countries went in.

    note/ The British lost more men to the Americans that they did to Iraq with so called friendly fire.
     
  2. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I believe you are refering to a lunguist named Noam Chomsky, in an interview after he was denied visa to the US on speaking engagement.
    I think
    he is a remarkable effective speaker and he was eventually hired as a university professor, that way he could do all the lectures he wanted
     
  3. masrapido
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    Chile was there too. What a shameful episode in our post-dictatorship era!!!!!! The revolt in the cabinet was so violent, the President Michelle Bachelett had to withdraw them after a few months and recently she confessed that sending chilean soldiers under the usa command into another country was the most stupid thing she had ever done. With her history of being Pinochet's prisoner, tortured, probably ***** by the inerrogators repeatedly (she was 16-18 if I remember well, back then), her father, a general in the army, killed by Pinochet, she SHOULD have known better.

    What a stupid and useless lapse of judgement!!! And she is a socialist too. She heard me loud and clear back then. Wonder I did not end up in prison for swearing and insulting a President...

    She will have to live with this dark moment on her conscience for the rest of her life.
     
  4. masrapido
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    Boston, he IS USAnian. How was he denied usa visa? Maybe visa for some other country?
     
  5. Boston

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    hey how are you Masrapido
    yes he is a citizen but I think it was a long hard road for him to attain that citizenship

    and you have no idea how right you are
    a friend of mine sent a rather unflattering letter to the president a while back and ended up in the clink for his troubles
    spent about five years behind bars and all for a bit of foul language and a thank you note to a guy named Hinkley
    guess he shouldn't have sent the thankyou note to the white house eh

    B

    ps
    sounds like your country tolerates free speech
    cause some countries I know of dont do that

    oh
    in case anyone thinks my friend was some kind of liberal terrorist he had done four tours in vietnam and only came home because he got his legs blown off. I went to high school with the guy. Spent the rest of his life in a wheel chair. They cut off his veterans benefits his social security and his disability without trial before he even got arrested and then once he was convicted his family was left destitute. All for a letter that was intended as a joke from a guy who had been through hell and was in questionable mental health at any given time.

    land of the free
    home of the brave
     
  6. masrapido
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    On an unrelated note, London sucks (weather wise). And it is soooo!!! expensive here...people barely survive.

    And a lot of immigrants walking down the street. Feels more like India or Egypt.

    And people are very impatient. I hope we never let foreigners into Chile. This is just not right. It is scary.This is not England I came to see...
     
  7. masrapido
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    Hello Boston, yes, it is much better nowadays. You are free to say what you think. The government is tolerant and it encourages the public to voice their opinion. Just this year we have had a couple of months of students' (grammar school level) baricaded in their schools and locked them down. Education minister engaged in direct talks with students and it was all quite positive, despite a number of clashes with police. Police still tend to handle protesters in a pinochet way on a slightest provocation (verbal usually) from protesters, but all in all, it was a strong victory for students.

    And protesters return the punches, mind you. Chilean do not shy away from a fight with the police (I have a scar under my chin to prove that). It's the best way to make government understand who is the boss.
     
  8. Tcubed
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    When this line goes to zero the system implodes.
    You're going to love this graph;
    http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/shepherd/2009/1112.html

    Question is do the money masters actually realize the implications of a finite world (with finite everything) or have they actually duped themselves into realy believing the growth forever myth of last century? If the former then presumably they already have some diabolical plan to rob us all on the way down as well.
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    The gold thing;
    Actually i thought gold extraction from the earth rates had peaked a long time ago. I thought whatever was getting mined nowadays was pretty minimal, enough to cover losses, but that basically most of the gold the earth had to offer was already mined and stored somewhere.

    On a separate but related note , it is interesting to note that peak oil will cause the acceleration of peak resource in just about everything else.
    In other words it is not just peak oil but peak evreything.
    That should be fun!

    Why oil will go down much faster than it went up;
    http://www.culturechange.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=537&Itemid=1
    If one thinks that is flawed , one just has to look at Cantarell.

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    I personally recommend this seminar for everyone;
    http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse
     
  9. masalai
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    TTT the "fun has only started" and thanks for a fine post & link... Peak Oil is largely accepted as 1980, increases on output are the result of "sucking harder", peak being the remaining known actual, as opposed to falsified, reserves are in a declining state...

    Think PEAKS on water, fish, farm production, building materials, most mined minerals and almost everything... Actually the peaks on these were loooooong ago and the product is almost totally exhausted... We have exhausted nearly all means of continuing sustenance on this silly little spaceship.... The rest of this globes history will be a brief, but catastrophic, downhill ride to primitive sustenance levels for a very few, following = resources wars, = food wars and = water wars to = global starvation....

    Gold, yep that too is in short supply and no really large deposits to meet expected growth in demand but quite a few small deposits - 1 to 5 man operations of "fun weekend panning" by those keen adventurers...

    China was the first to recognise = "peak population" and that is now out of balance with an extra large male population without hope of finding a Chinese wife :eek: = another imbalance that could destabilise things...

    We humans, it appears, are really good at making a ******* big disaster of everything... Yep your recommendation seems worthy, especially for the N American region...

    The global situation is getting very serious very fast, and very few are taking any notice... Time to prepare is getting very short, signs of anarchic behaviour are increasing with disenfranchised youth going on racist, fear motivated rampages and other inter-racial attacks on the rise... I am aware of anti racial sentiment towards Indians, Indian students in Victoria, anti Muslim, Serb/Croat, Asian around Sydney and other regions in Australia experiencing inter-racial conflicts... All this is referred to as "criminal behaviour", which it is, but the underlying sentiment is cause for grave doubts as to future peace and safety...

    The essays from Financial sense may be of interest for those watching internal economic and other affairs, but for me, not worth posting as a reference set for the rest of the world apart from the revelations of the extreme levels of fraud and corruption that are being exposed, as one would expect of a news report, "that a stray dog was run over and killed as it crossed some busy motorway and caused no auto-mobile accidents or damage" WTF... just, '**** happens', and nothing more? - - to a scam that possibly placed some 1.3 million COUNTERFIET 400oz gold bars into circulation - HALF ARE SUPPOSEDLY IN FORT KNOX:!::!:

    I am listening to the Financial Sense Newshour (4 podcasts of about an hour each) in MP3 format to listen at your leisure whilst getting drunk on your favourite alcoholic tipple...
     
  10. mark775

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    "Combine T3's read with my post" and Doradito and the one who sat through so many years of university without learning English - (we're not talking an occasional mispelling like someone wrapped up in the sciences, we're not talking a typo or four)...Combine all of them, line the F'ing birdcage with 'em.
    I didn't say single-handed. I'll say it now. The only countries with more killed were those with no choice. Gotta put that "per capita" thing in there to slant the numbers. Boston, I will be happy to send you one-way air anywhere you want to go (subject to the condition that you not come back).
    I, for one, have learned much about peoples from other lands on this thread.
    I really have enjoyed meeting and feeling "oneness" with others my entire life but this thread has convinced me that I now favor isolationism. I will never visit the "land of vermin", Queensland, I'll leave the kids and disgusting food (other than European restaurants) of Thailand (being clean, we have better Thai food here) to Frosty. The only thing about Chile is that the good parts are "mini-Alaska" and the people that Doradito despises and they can visit me here. Puerto Rico, I may go again one day but will totally avoid places with Puerto Ricans other than servants. I will be in favor of letting your fetid places of the world rot and look forward to seeing how you handle your future conflicts and what history you rewrite about them.
    10052~God-Bless-America-Posters.jpg

    We have our share of history re-writing here and I don't stand for it either.
     
  11. Boston

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    always a pleasure Mark
    question
    what if I wanted to move to say
    Alaska
    do I still get a free twickett
     
  12. masalai
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    She (God) may bless America , but I think That would exclude USA... Please feel comfortable festering in your own environment and refrain from polluting anywhere else with your arrogant and other antisocial attitudes - I hope you can enjoy yourself...

    http://www.elliottwave.com/ezine/weekly_select/ewi_weekly_select_online_111409.html
    http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayCdd.php?id=277
    http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayGsd.php



    Off track but relates to battery performance and electric motors - - something good and exciting for a change...
    http://www.plasmaboyracing.com/reviews.php#2007s
    http://www.plasmaboyracing.com/whitezombie.php
     
  13. hoytedow
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    Frosty,
    Hollywood twists everything.
     
  14. Tcubed
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    Mark only wanted us to know that he lives in Homer (would that be Homer Simpson or the place near Anchorage...?)
    But i actually managed to find a picture of him!

    [​IMG]


    I'm sure the US is mighty proud of having a devout supporter like him.

    :D:p
     
  15. masalai
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    masalai masalai


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