Global economic situation for liveaboard cruising yachties

[Boston]

interesting read T3 I had no idea that gold production had fallen off so dramatically

[masalai]

Here you are Boston as a pdf file so the columnar format does not get lost (all additional spaces and all tabs are removed from posts), so the best way is to post is as a pdf file and attach as a thumbnail by using the <Go Advanced> tab and Attachments/paperclip button, also as works with images & lots of other stuff...

[masalai]

Combine T3's read with my post #2004 and be prepared for a leap in the price of real gold... Be careful lots of tungsten bars out there, - - so I guess multiple 5 ounce bars or 1 ounce gold & silver coins, from a reputable source should be a solid buy, - - APPRECIATING very rapidly very soon.... All that is needed is for the CIA to uncover a massive counterfeiting operation in US$ denominated bank notes and ETF and other certificates making people really scared of any US type paper....

[Boston]

Originally Posted by masalai

Here you are Boston as a pdf file so the calumniation does not get lost (all additional spaces and all tabs are removed from posts, so the best way is to post as a pdf file and attach as a thumbnail by using the <Go Advanced> tab and Attachments/paperclip button as works with images...

thanks Mass
B

[sabahcat]

Originally Posted by masalai

"Tungsten as a Gold Substitute"...

Dont forget shells

[Boston]

Originally Posted by hoytedow

Neither Mark nor I said the USA won the war single-handedly, but without us it would have been a very different outcome. That is all I have to say on that subject. Spend more time reading history and less time trying to re-write it.

I would be very interested to hear what parts of history you think I have misrepresented

cheers
B

[masalai]

The shells - - - Golden Cowrey and other rare ones are OK by me, - - - but to think you have gold only to find it is gold plated tungsten, one would swiftly get into a very murderous mood, as a 400oz bar of gold should be about US$442,400.00 of AU$478,000.00 and a similar bar of tungsten about US$250.00 - - ripped off to the tune of half a million and more....

[masrapido]

Originally Posted by hoytedow

God owns every country. He will judge us all on what we did to them.

God? What's that? There's no such thing...

By the way boston said exactly what you say he didn't. Maybe if you read his post again...

[masrapido]

Originally Posted by bntii

Yes he is- so I am naturally surprised that he got nearly every point in his post wrong.

bntii, you got it all wrong. Boston is spot on that issue. Maybe you could take up on your own advice and learn the history as it actually happened, instead as to what the usanian dictatorship is brainwashing you that it happened?

Because the end of the WWII screwed up the world anyway. The reign of usanian nazism, as you can see today, is ultimately going down the same way Soviet version did earlier. Down the crapper shutting at everything that moves, with "we are the righteous ones" propaganda written on their foreheads.

[Frosty]

We -the British begged USA for any old ships during the war --anything, --the reply was-- " we don't have anything suitable".

The USA shipped bombs and war supplies to the British but were reluctant to joion in as we all know. We were almost bankrupt, we could not afford to pay the US for the supplies , the US cut us off !!!! ( bet you did'nt know that did you Mark) we were in dire straights and the US cut us off.

The Canadians paid our bills. Our last Gold went to US and we were bankrupt.

As we were loosing and looking desperate it became clear that the USA had to come into the war, not to save England or anything so gallant but that if we had lost England the US would have a war in the own country. That would be unthinkable for the US,-- they fight war in other countries.

So over they came saying we've come to save you ********.

A freind of mine (i hope hes still alive) was a spitfire pilot. He told me that the American pilots would always be back first from a raid with empty bomb holds and always no damage. They were dropping bombs in the channel and coming back!!!!. When this was discovered they had to fly with an armed guard in the cockpit to make them bomb the target.

[Boston]

what tends to happen in any history is that the victor kinda re-writes events in such a way as to present themselves in the best light. I think maybe that is what H is accusing me of, although I think I got the events of the first indo-china war pretty well down, and the fact that it was instigated by the French desire to reacquire "there" colony. The fact that the food riots in Vietnam near the end of ww2 spun off the Viet Minh is also well known as is the lack of political tendencies of the movement. Although that last is debatable. The gulf of Tomkin event is a classic false flag operation and is well documented as such so not sure how that one is in question. when you look at the sacrifices that countries like Latvia Estonia or Romania paid in ww2 it dwarfs the losses of the US. If you consider the suffering of common man under the thumb of the axis powers its almost unthinkable. Both Germany and Japan were completely destroyed. I suppose for some its a little harder than others to wear the shoes of the next guy but in the end its wearing those shoes that will eventually lead to a better home for all. My take is that these common folks were not acting any differently than I might have given the same set of circumstances. Seems to me that most combatants probably thought they were doing what was best for there countries, so when I see veterans day coming round again I tend to think of the men on both sides who when faced with a difficult choice chose the path they thought was right rather than the easy way out. Even if it cost them there lives. I say no one can claim to have "won" given all that was lost in the process.

ah late night philosophy
cheers
B

[Senad]

And let us not forget that the enormous losses in Germany and Japan, as listed by Boston, were suffered by civilian population at the very end of the war.

Who killed those millions? US army. And then they went to criticise Soviets for "crimes against humanity" and "millions" of killed in Siberia...

See, the difference between the US and Russians is that Russians were, at least, killing each other. US goes out to conquest and crap about how they are fighting for freedom and democracy. Even though no one asked them to interfere.

So where is today democracy in Grenade for example? Since Reagan occupied the island, the little country is worse than ever.

Not to mention "American" Samoa...That is one black hole in Pacific. Or, how about Palestine? Why is that war going on since the WWII? Because USA is spreading the "peace", "freedom" and "democracy".

Truth and honesty are concepts not practiced. How would that awful "country" survive if the people were normal and humane. Aware of the realities of the world around them. Focused on their own country and mind their own business?

Here an example of total failure of capitalist "democracy" from my ex homeland. To USA, Serbs are the "enemy", Croats and Slovenians "friends" (unlike Serbians, they lick american arses good). US and NATO bombed Serbia, killed more civilians than Bush in New York on 11 September, and destroyed almost 30% of the industry. In the same time, they pumped millions into Croatia and Slovenia.

Yet, the most stable and safest economy ion the southwestern end of Europe is not even Greece. It is Serbia.

How come? Because they are not following "western" capitalism. They are, because of the sanctions and US-imposed "democratic" isolation, free to develop and they did, their own way.

And it works beautifully. European Central Bank ranked them above Greece, and well above the rest of US servants on the Balkans.

Despite all the hardship, destruction and pressure, their is the model that works better than US capitalism.

What a great spit in the face of the opressor from a small and proud nation.

And we freed ourselves from Germans long before you landed in France, hiding behind British soldiers, so for us, your role in the WWII is at best anegdotal. Largely invisible. In fact "allies" bombed many cities in Jugoslavija (Belgrade, Zadar, Split to mention just a few) and destroyed them. Not the nazis, the "allies".

And then you wonder why people hate you.

USA is the cancer of the world. Evil, malignant, parasitis cancer that only eats away what keeps it alive.

[masrapido]

Another great movie from the man who knows:

http://www.novamov.com/video/6goz8omhonnfg

[masalai]

Today's links are

http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayGsd.php "Just Another Day Off The Calendar", - - - but the ESSENTIAL STUFF is in all the links and closing sections, some is VERY IMPORTANT to your future well-being....
http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayCdd.php?id=276 "Seeds of Crisis" don't forget the 'miscellaney' near the end

http://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/3280
http://www.theaureport.com/cs/user/p...2?x-t=pub.view
http://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/3281
http://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/3271
http://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/3272
http://www.theaureport.com/cs/user/p...3?x-t=pub.view
http://www.theaureport.com/cs/user/p...6?x-t=pub.view

http://www.gata.org/node/8020 "Iran uses gold coin sales to manipulate markets"
http://www.gata.org/node/8019 "Super-rich seen buying gold, selling hedge funds" - - time to exit paper... (shares, ETF etc., Derivatives, fiat currencies)
http://www.gata.org/node/8021 "Everyone wants his currency weaker but can't keep up with dollar's fall"
http://www.gata.org/node/8022 "Imagine if any of this money went into real metal, not just paper"

Do not forget King World News and Financial Sense audio podcasts later on... haveagoodweekendanddon'tforgettheaeroguard...

WHEN will someone blink or fart? seems it is resting on a knife edge, and no one is keen to be the one who started the precipitous fall... ****

[hoytedow]

So, U.S. casualties were in the top 10% and had to travel farther.
Most of the other fighters had the luxury of being able to die near home.
We didn't have to be there and could have had zero casualties, like Mexico did.
407,300 is no small number.