Boat Design Forums  |  Boat Design Directory  |  Boat Design Gallery  |  Boat Design Book Store  |  Thanks to Our Site Sponsors

Go Back   Boat Design Forums > Community > Open Discussion: All Things Boats & Boating
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #16  
Old 08-14-2010, 08:22 PM
hoytedow's Avatar
hoytedow hoytedow is offline
Resistor
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Rep: 1871 Posts: 3,350
Location: Norte de Cuba
polyurethane
__________________
Hoyt
"Lightning is very selective and will not strike crap." Wynand N
"We Redistribute World's Wealth By Climate Policy" UN IPCC Official
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-14-2010, 09:57 PM
J3 J3 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Rep: 16 Posts: 60
Location: MI
Somewhere I read an article on how they do the complicated in-gelcote colors now using some kind of color inlay application in the mold. Can't find it. Anyone have experience doing elaborate designs in-mold gelcote?

(I'm old fashioned - I prefer single colors
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-14-2010, 11:44 PM
ondarvr ondarvr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Rep: 288 Posts: 662
Location: Monroe WA
Doing it in mold with gel coat is about the same as doing it later with paint, lots of tape, paper, skill and the right products.

Many of the custom looking color schemes on boats are vinyl, depending on the quality, part of the world you live in and where you store the boat, vinyl can last a long time. But in intense sun and when stored outside all methods and products will fail sooner than you would like them too.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-15-2010, 06:02 PM
Vulkyn's Avatar
Vulkyn Vulkyn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Rep: 529 Posts: 486
Location: Egypt
So is there any point in spraying varnish on top of Vinyl ?
I mean it wount effect the color fading but it would at least protect it from miner scratches?
__________________
The Mummies Dummy guide to boat building stuff!!!
"All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism."
"Learn wisdom when you can its gona help you out some day in your life"
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-16-2010, 08:34 AM
ondarvr ondarvr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Rep: 288 Posts: 662
Location: Monroe WA
I wouldn't put anything over the vinyl, it just makes life more difficult.

The nice thing about vinyl is it can be removed and replaced relatively easily compared to paint
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 08-16-2010, 08:47 AM
Vulkyn's Avatar
Vulkyn Vulkyn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Rep: 529 Posts: 486
Location: Egypt
Quote:
Originally Posted by J3 View Post
Somewhere I read an article on how they do the complicated in-gelcote colors now using some kind of color inlay application in the mold. Can't find it. Anyone have experience doing elaborate designs in-mold gelcote?

(I'm old fashioned - I prefer single colors
Thats what i was looking for as well some one told me they do it using vinyl in molding stage paint then remove creating different colors or something im looking into it and asked a friend who works in fiber repair to send me his technique he's been using for about 8 years now.
__________________
The Mummies Dummy guide to boat building stuff!!!
"All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism."
"Learn wisdom when you can its gona help you out some day in your life"
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-16-2010, 08:57 AM
Ramius41 Ramius41 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Rep: 10 Posts: 30
Location: The South
In-Mould Gel coat graphics if not has , is becoming a lost art! And it is also more of a 2d paint scheme. Its hard to do the newer looking shadows and wilder graphics because for 1 you have to do everything backwards. We paint our graphics on after ist been pulled from the moulds and we use traditional automotive paint and then put a clear coat over for the UV protection. The problem is that its basically permanent(to a point)...and means that if you have to repaint it means you have to sand almost down to the original gel coat. Wraps(Vinyl decals) are the new thing , but as Apex1(Richard) has posted , its not a permanent solution by far , but its much easier to redo or change....you just put a bit of heat on it and pull it off and scuff and buff the area and place your new graphics on it!....I am not sure how large a boat you are talking about...we build a 19' tunnel hull so we do not have lot of area to cover....but our 40'er is a different story! Also there is a big difference between saltwater and fresh as far as the Wraps go...I have seen wraps flapping in the wind from good day in the salt!
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-16-2010, 09:01 AM
Vulkyn's Avatar
Vulkyn Vulkyn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Rep: 529 Posts: 486
Location: Egypt
Thx for your help sir !!

Yah salt water operation 40 - 45 degrees sun 70-95% humidity 5 - 10 meter boats
Both fiber and strip planked epoxy.

My friend assures me he has 6 year boats with 3M Vinyl colors that are still going strong .... he is too busy to email me how he does it though will keep badgering him .....
__________________
The Mummies Dummy guide to boat building stuff!!!
"All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism."
"Learn wisdom when you can its gona help you out some day in your life"
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-16-2010, 09:17 AM
Ramius41 Ramius41 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Rep: 10 Posts: 30
Location: The South
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulkyn View Post
Thx for your help sir !!

Yah salt water operation 40 - 45 degrees sun 70-95% humidity 5 - 10 meter boats
Both fiber and strip planked epoxy.

My friend assures me he has 6 year boats with 3M Vinyl colors that are still going strong .... he is too busy to email me how he does it though will keep badgering him .....
Yes I have seen those also...but they go out and play in the water for a couple of hours and then take the boat out of the water and wash wax and park it in a garage! anything will last a long time if its properly cared for , thats why there are 100 year old boats still around! But I guess I am more of a cynic , if it can be broken it will be!...lol
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 08-16-2010, 09:20 AM
Vulkyn's Avatar
Vulkyn Vulkyn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Rep: 529 Posts: 486
Location: Egypt
lol .....
If it that what it takes than that good enough for me !!
Just dont want it to shrivel shrink and die horribly in its maiden voyage lol
__________________
The Mummies Dummy guide to boat building stuff!!!
"All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism."
"Learn wisdom when you can its gona help you out some day in your life"
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fiber Glass/gel Coat Help down2lb Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building 13 05-08-2010 07:47 PM
Paint scheme for high speed yatchts issac82 Boat Design 2 06-21-2009 03:50 PM
cold moulding vs fiber glass nautical Wooden Boat Building and Restoration 21 05-13-2007 10:48 AM
Weight of fiber glass jfblouin Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building 10 07-14-2005 10:30 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:59 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Web Site Design and Content Copyright ©1999 - 2012 Boat Design Net