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Old 03-18-2010, 06:28 PM
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Whoops! Back to sea pirates. I have to say that I am very anti-pirate. lol
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:45 PM
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some form of supreme entity, which, I believe, views mankind as a science project gone horribly wrong. Mike
Do you have any idea when Supreme Entity ( S. T. for the intimes) will correct the experiment.
Of course if S.T. can't, we are f#$%^&*%&*# big deal, because we have to keep going like that for generation to come.
If you have an 800 number to talk to S.T., please ask for some changes.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:21 PM
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Did you see the size and hight of a freeboard on a cargoship?
Something is wrong about this piracy. I went several time with a zodiac toward a cargo ship and they thru me a ladder to come aboard. Boy, its high, and when you are half way, and the satchel full of paper start to be heavy it start to be realy difficult.
Something is not adding up, sorry. I don't see how they can board the vessel, trained or not, they are not part of the SEAL, they are a bunch of sixteen to twenty y.o. hungry and stupid. How they can board a ship which have at least 30 crews? Just full ahead, the propeller stream of the cargo is enough to get the little skiff up side down. Then reverse, (which you can do faster than everybody think) and you will see some bad brain and limbs floating on the surface. Use the ship as a weapon.
As a Jesuit educated, I never anticipated to write something so dreadful.
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I'm with you on this one, Daniel. No one ever said Christianity had to be a suicide pact.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:33 PM
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It seems to me that what has been well-illustrated, here, is that the fields of spiritual beliefs and boat design/construction, run parallel to each other, in some ways. As one considers the history of each of these fields, one can see the variance in opinions as to what is palpable. Yet, there are reasonable challenges - often as a result of personal experiences - to what is the accepted theory of the day. Though a thousand examples are bouncing around in my head, right now, one thing I have learned is that the other members of these forums are at least as intelligent as I. Keeping this in mind & accepting that I do not have the time to be long-winded today, I will simply suggest that we'll never agree on what is the best boat or what spiritual or scientific belief is correct.

Personally, I am an evolutionist and agnostic. I buy into evolutionary theory, over creationism, and support the contention that there is some form of supreme entity, which, I believe, views mankind as a science project gone horribly wrong. I appreciate that the foundations of most spiritual beliefs are good, but believe that mankind screws up that which it comes into contact with. In similar fashion, I like bowsprits, ketch rigs, center cockpits, cut-away keels & transverse frames in steel 40 footers, yet, appreciate that some view these likes as laughable. To each, his/her own.
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I believe evolution is a process created by God. It is evident that we evolve through time. It is also evident to some of us, at least, that there is a force greater than ourselves who set the planets in motion and strung all those itsy bitsy pieces of DNA together, gave some color vision and denied it to others and made life forms which might or might not be carbon-based.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:47 PM
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I believe evolution is a process created by God. It is evident that we evolve through time. It is also evident to some of us, at least, that there is a force greater than ourselves who set the planets in motion and strung all those itsy bitsy pieces of DNA together, gave some color vision and denied it to others and made life forms which might or might not be carbon-based.
Where did he come from? Where did he get all this knowledge? Who taught him? Who were his parents? Why doesn't he show us his face, sometime since the last time he showed his face, to a flea bitten camel jockey in the desert 2,000 years ago, if he really wants us to believe he exists?
Why does the bible describe him as a misogynist, racist , homicidal,war mongering, hot tempered childish egomaniac, who condemns entire races for the actions of one, then call him a"Loving god, " and insist we model our behavior on his , for a better world?
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:59 PM
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Where did he come from? Where did he get all this knowledge? Who taught him? Who were his parents? Why doesn't he show us his face, sometime since the last time he showed his face, to a flea bitten camel jockey in the desert 2,000 years ago, if he really wants us to believe he exists?
Why does the bible describe him as a misogynist, racist , homicidal,war mongering, hot tempered childish egomaniac, who condemns entire races for the actions of one, then call him a"Loving god, " and insist we model our behavior on his , for a better world?
Brent, what about "DEALING WITH PIRATS"
My eyesight is not as it was, but if If I read correctly that the theme of the thread.
I just try to go back to the matter at hand, nothing less, nothing more.
As for the problem of religion or metaphysics, perhaps open a new thread.
I will be glad to join. But I am interrested on this particular thread because it is about pirats. Please give us your insight.
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Old 03-19-2010, 08:45 PM
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ya bring the religion over to the Noah's bark thread where it is safe and sound
lets keep this one to pirate deterrence
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Old 03-20-2010, 08:29 AM
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Which takes us back to the point of defence against pirates. Find them and kill them.
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Old 03-20-2010, 08:56 AM
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Amen!
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:13 PM
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ya Im not typically the "kill them all and let God sort em out" type but when it comes to piracy Ill make an exception
sink them and then call the authorities to let em know where the survivors are floating at
one good twin 50 should do the trick if you can get the license for it
in Colorado its 1500 bucks one time fee but you need to resubmit for a permit every year on automatic weapons

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Old 03-20-2010, 09:35 PM
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Send some Catholic child abuse fond Preists.

That'lle put the fear of God up them. Especially the young good looking ones.

LOOK OUT ITS A CATHOLIC PRIEST. RUN FOR YOUR ARSES.

The thought of being rogered over the hand rails, is a good deterrent.

Then afterwards when fly's are zipped they could have a nice little service and teach them Christianity.

Im sure that on their return they will run straight to the safety of the Mosque and never go to sea again, Oh probably stop at the Chemists on the way.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:08 PM
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way to bring the conversation back to piracy there Frosty
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:20 PM
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Frosty, are you pirating this thread?
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:43 PM
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I would like to have your input guys on the sheer size of the freeboard of a cargo ship, the way to board it and how they succed.
It doesn't had up in my opinion.
Is somebody here, and I am sure someone did, claimb the jacob ladder?
It is freaken high.
Did you check lately the thickness of a hull, the displacement? the speed?
Some thought?
Perhaps I am missing something
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:54 PM
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I suppose they throw lines up to the rail or fire enough rockets that the crew finally gives in and lowers a ladder

Im surprised the crews dont just lean over the rail with a few autos and open fire
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