Dealing with pirates

Boston, he was a black journalist for the Washington Post, sent on assignment to West Africa, saw headless corpses floating down the river, people with arms hacked off, tribes raping and killing four innocents because the other tribe raped and killed four innocents, and got out of that **** hole and said, "thank God for slavery" (it got us out of there).
Hillbilly, I don't know who Jeff is but to assume he a moderator. I have never used nor looked at that part of the site.
No, I cannot have discourse with you. I will have one stab at this, and one only. You, I would put before a wall and shoot were I king but the cool thing is that I am not, nor is anyone here. You can therefore say whatever stupid **** any Huffington Post liberal can dream up because you are free. FU and the baby blue Prius you rode in on.

[BillyDoc]

Handled like a real American Man, Mark, running . . . running . . . running . . .

[Boston]

and so goes the pirates thread down and past Davie Jones locker.
interesting stuff about Richburge I had not read any of his stuff venture it to say that the state of affairs between some of the more violent of the African tribes has changed little over time and if anything with the advent of guns gotten worse. I think the point however was racism and not a moral investigation of cultural norms. My ancestors would have tied your white ass to an ant hill and let you bake in the sun while they ate your food rummaged your stuff and had your wife and kids, they would however have let your relatives live as long as the lesson was learned and your kin were willing to play nice from then on *1. Course the Europeans would have slaughtered every man woman and child ( the Pequot massacre ) of a given tribe and then lied cheated and stolen everything that wasnt nailed down and some stuff that even was. Point being we are all guilty of our History although some more so than others. The need to look past the basic flaws in all our histories and make amends and reparations is more the topic at hand, that being so as in many cases of past indiscretions there are two fundamental sticky points

1 those indiscretions are more in the present than the past
for instance indian land is still being mined without compensation from the companies mining them to the tribes

2 payments promised in binding contracts from various land sales have not been paid. Kinda negates the sale if you ask me unless someone wants to cough up the money as has been ordered in various supreme court decisions

*1
actually that was more of a Midwestern and Western tribal rarity and the Iroquois never played that way. The Iroquois would just split the offending parties skull with a war club and the offended party would wash his hands in your brains ( assuming you had any ) ( not directed at anyone in particular so lets not get all sensitive about my goofy sense of humor )

way more civilized than burning innocents at the steak for witchcraft. There is a great book called High Road to the Stake that among other things defines the process quite nicely. The cruelest example being of a beautiful young woman who's jailers sold tickets to. She had several children over the three or so years of her torture ( She was tortured during the day and sold during the night to help pay for the prosecution of her family by the local justice who she had been forced to, once blithering insane, to implicate in her witchcraft ) she was lead to the stead drooling mad ofter years of torture and having been taken out and made to watch the torture and burning of her entire family one by one over the years. The girls treatment at the hand of her jailers is nothing less than the culmination of every nightmare of the inquisition come true with the malleus maleficarum being the model of what by some researchers is millions of similar prosecutions; it being specifically designed to drive the victim to incoherent insanity thus proving the existence of a demon and justifying the prosecution.

thank god for civilization

if you would like to discuss the cultural norms of various European cultures Ive got a pretty good handle on history

oh
the woman previously described family was guilty of building a flower mill a few years before the local justice decided to build his. He didnt like the competition and always did have an eye for there beautiful daughter.
Great guy eh and all perfectly legal at the time.


this page is gettin ugly
I predict its imminent doom

[Boston]

hey Fanie
little tidbit for your further edification
the pyramids were not built by slaves
that hole thing is a Judo-Christianic myth invented long after the pyramids were actually constructed

there was no actual diaspora nor a conquest of the Canaan valley. Get a copy of The Bible Unearthed and read up on what archeology has to say about it. Its a great book written by several of the leading archeologists in the field. I think one is the editor of archeology magazine and the other is the professor emeritus of archeology university of Tel Aviv. Its not so much a refutation of the bible story or Judaism as it is an assessment of the tribal histories of the area. Turns out the Hycsos ( Jewish people as they would later be known as ) were a rather primitive mountain tribe living in highlands of the Canaan valey. The Egyptians seldom enslaved them in any numbers and actually built a series of fortifications along there boarder to protect the Nile valley from incursions during times of drought. The pyramids were built by a small town of craftsmen located not far away and it would have been an insult to the Gods to have a slave work on there temples. The Egyptians were excellent records keepers and although the actual construction method is unknown there is a lot that is known about the town of craftsman who built them.

[Fanie]

Mmmm... it seems like your small town of craftsmen had some outside help.

How long ago were those built... and here we are, modern 'civilized' humans capable of complex technologies, great sea worthy boats that can sail to wind that was unknown in the times of the pyramids, yet we are not even capable of accepting and accomodating our fellow man's differing from our own.

Quick to judge and to discard, slow to patience and understanding.

Then it doesn't surprise me the actual construction method of the pyramids remains unknown.

Seems we have a ways to go yet.

[Boston]

even the age of the pyramids is not firmly established
the base of each is made up of significantly larger stones than the upper sections and seem to be weathered at a different rate. That according to Hapgood who is not all that well liked by a lot of others in his field, but he has a point. The sphinx also is of significantly older origins with there being obvious water damage on the edifice and the surrounding quarried area. Also the quality of the craftsmanship changes in the great pyramids as apposed to others in the valley.

It has been reasonably established that they were not tombs and the only inscription ever found in the great pyramid was misspelled using modern pigments by a man known to fake artifacts that and all other pyramids were covered in excerpts from the book of the dead.

B

[Boston]

I recently saw this whole thing on the crown
its some oddball conglomeration of three areas of the world that have no real association with an individual country but are controlled by a smallish group of people and contain the vast majority of the worlds wealth
one is in London England one in Washington and lastly the Vatican city
I dont remember the whole story but basically its thought that those mystery men who control everything
do it from one of those three unaffiliated locations
not sure what the deal is
but Im sure one of you folks have the whole scoop

[rasorinc]

New US Coast Guard rules for US ships sailing in pirate infested waters.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090512/...GzkRj3QVp34T0D

[masalai]

Land of the free is loosing more and more freedom every day

[swabbie]

Attached site map displays the size of the areas under attack for 2009

http://www.abc.net.au/news/infograph...cy/default.htm

[masalai]

A copy-&-paste from my build thread, as this is an important development in anti-pirate technology and must be shared with you lot.... - - - - "..... Bloody typo's... I am working on the perfect sails, I am in the process of training some "bird-catching-spiders" to spin the sails for me and to obey voice commands so if we are ever attacked by pirates I just have to tell them dinner is coming and to attack the pirates and the spiders roll them into a "mummy-sack" and hang for their larder - I reckon the boat will look pretty scary too - so we may actually have to go and chase some pirates... - - luckily, as a 'spirit-being', the spiders are not interested in eating me - ..... '

[mydauphin]

Got a mythbuster idea. If I dump gallon of gas overboard from my transom and ignite it. Can I out run the flame and cause the pirates to catch on fire like a James Bond movie....

Or should I connect my 400 amp alternator and electrocute them when they come onboard, they will shurely be wet and not have rubber shoes...

[brian eiland]

..from another forum

Another negotiation round for the Pirates, and that’s without any representation at the table.
Go figure.
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Tue May 19, 8:03 am ET

Anti-piracy body backs off on international maritime force

KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) – An international piracy conference on Tuesday backed off tough proposals calling for an international naval taskforce to be set up under U.N. auspices to fight Somali pirates after members disagreed over implementation.

The measure was aimed at fighting a sharp rise in piracy, with Somali pirates mounting 81 attacks between January 1 and April 20, according to United Nations data. The attacks threaten trade routes and aid supplies and push up insurance costs at a time when most of the global economy is in recession.

The initial resolution from more than 60 countries and the European Union was watered down after a two-day conference in the Malaysian capital that brought together governments, navies and shipping bodies.

"The United Nations is invited to consider further the possibility of taking joint measures through the contact group on piracy off the coast of Somalia and its working groups to coordinate maritime force operations to suppress acts of piracy and armed robbery against ships off the coast of Somalia," the final statement said.

That was far weaker than a draft statement, seen by Reuters, that called for the United Nations to consider "the establishment of an international maritime force to suppress acts of piracy and armed robbery against ships off the coast of Somalia."

A senior maritime official who attended the conference said: "Asking for the formation of an international maritime force has legal and political ramifications."
"We are going forward too fast," the official told Reuters on condition of anonymity.

Differences over laws concerning the arrest of pirates, some of whom work to order at the behest of criminal gangs outside Somalia, have bedeviled operations in the Gulf of Aden and more force was needed, naval officials said.

European Union human rights laws, which guarantee all people including pirates respect for their basic rights, are a particular problem, said Geoffrey Till, Professor of Maritime Studies at King's College in London.
Kenya, which neighbors Somalia, last year agreed to prosecute pirates on behalf of countries that are unable to do so themselves. Till said it had prosecuted 60 pirates since then.

[Landlubber]

Typical UN, just a bunch of gutless socialist bastards and Fagans. What would you expect from them. They stand by in countries that are unable to defend themselves and watch them die, so why not help pirates, one of a clan.

[Fanie]

What pisses me really off is why the pirate's human rights are respected. They respect no one else's human f rights.

It's 03h50 in the morning and I haven't shut an eye. Some illiterate dumb f pirate was in my yard again to see what he can take.

How about my human f rights for a change. I'm writing an exam tonight

I can understand fully why the farmers hit some people on the head or throw them to the lions. These fckers are too lazy and useless to contribute in any way positive to society or the environment, but when they can commit a crime they are f brilliant.

The crime here hasn't stopped, despite a lot of promisses made by zooooma. Another farm murder recently. What about their human f rights. Last I heard it was over 2000 white farmers murdered, the rest of the world stands oblivious to all of this.

We have become so callous to so called assistent organizations that when they do rock up here I think I can look them in the eye and tell them fcuk off.

I can't wait to see what's going to happen to the 2010 soccer here. You must all please come.

Human f right my f ass.