Conspiracy theories and lost opportunities (just for fun)

[powerabout]

Originally Posted by Boston

OK so check this out



turns out it was a Native American christian center that had its building up for sale. Ok so somehow they get ahold of my name, and the people looking at buying it are friends of mine, from waaaaaaay back, crazy. Then it get really interesting. I'm standing out in the back yard talking to my friend I've not seen in months and who's out of the blue got me inspecting a building for her, and her sister calls, who'm I'm also not spoken to in months.

crazy,

Gotta be some kinda spooky hoodo guru **** right

OK so lets see if they end up buying it.

whole thing was crazy from the word go

and a church no less ?????????

Why would a Native American need christianity?

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by powerabout

Why would a Native American need christianity?

Christianity; It's not just for white people anymore.

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by Frosty

AN OPEN LETTER TO GERMAN CHANCELLOR ANGELA MERKEL

By Frederick Forsyth

Dear Madam Chancellor
PERMIT me to begin this letter with a brief description of my knowledge of, and affection for, your country.

I first came to Germany as a boy student aged 13 in 1952, two years before you were born. After three extended vacations with German families who spoke no English I found at the age of 16 and to my pleasure that I could pass for German among Germans.

In my 20s I was posted as a foreign correspondent to East Germany in 1963, when you would have been a schoolgirl just north of East Berlin where I lived.

I know Germany, Frau Merkel, from the alleys of Hamburg to the spires of Dresden, from the Rhine to the Oder, from the bleak Baltic coast to the snows of the Bavarian Alps. I say this only to show you that I am neither ignoramus nor enemy.

I also had occasion in those years to visit the many thousands of my countrymen who held the line of the Elbe against 50,000 Soviet main battle tanks and thus kept Germany free to recover, modernise and prosper at no defence cost to herself.

And from inside the Cold War I saw our decades of effort to defeat the Soviet empire and set your East Germany free.

I was therefore disappointed last Friday to see you take the part of a small and vindictive Frenchman in what can only be seen as a targeted attack on the land of my fathers.

We both know that every country has at least one aspect of its society or economy that is so crucial, so vital that it simply cannot be conceded.

For Germany it is surely your automotive sector, your car industry.

Any foreign-sourced measure to target German cars and render them unsaleable would have to be opposed to vetopoint by a German chancellor.

For France it is the agricultural sector. For more than 50 years members of the EU have been taxed under the terms of the Common Agricultural Policy in order to subsidise France’s agriculture. Indeed, the CAP has been the cornerstone of every EU budget since the first day.

Attack it and France fights back.

For us the crucial corner of our economy is the financial services industry. Although parts of it exist all over the country it is concentrated in that part of London known even internationally as “the City”.

It is not just a few greedy bankers; we both have those but the City is far more. It is indeed a vast banking agglomeration of more banks than anywhere else in the world.

But that is the tip of the iceberg. Also in the City is the world’s greatest concentration of insurance companies.

Add to that the brokers; traders in stocks and shares worldwide, second only, and then maybe not, to Wall Street. But it is not just stocks.

The City is also home to the “exchanges” of gold and precious metals, diamonds, base metals, commodities, futures, derivatives, coffee, cocoa… the list goes on and on.

And it does not yet touch upon shipping, aviation, fuels, energy, textiles… enough. Suffice to say the City is the biggest and busiest marketplace in the world.

It makes the Paris Bourse look like a parish council set against the United Nations and even dwarfs your Frankfurt many times.

That, surely, is the point of what happened in Brussels. The French wish to wreck it and you seem to have agreed. Its contribution to the British economy is not simply useful nor even merely valuable.

It is absolutely crucial. The financial services industry contributes 10 per cent of our Gross Domestic Product and 17.5 per cent of our taxation revenue.

A direct and targeted attack on the City is an attack on my country. But that, although devised in Paris, is what you have chosen to support.

You seem to have decided that Britain is once again Germany’s enemy, a situation that has not existed since 1945.

I deeply regret this but the choice was yours and entirely yours. The Transaction Tax or Tobin Tax you reserve the right to impose would not even generate money for Brussels.

It would simply lead to massive emigration from London to other havens. Long ago it was necessary to live in a city to trade in it.

In the days when deals can flash across the world in a nanosecond all a major brokerage needs is a suite of rooms, computers, telephones and the talent of the young people barking offers and agreements down the phone.

Such a suite of rooms could be in Berne, Thun, Zurich or even Singapore. Under your Tobin Tax tens of thousands would leave London.

This would not help Brussels, it would simply help destroy the British economy.

Your conference did not even save the euro. Permit me a few home truths about it. The euro is a Franco-German construct.

It was a German chancellor (Kohl) who ordered a German banker (Karl Otto Pohl) to get together with a French civil servant (Delors) on the orders of a French president (Mitterrand) and create a common currency.

Which they did. IT was a flawed construct. Like a ship with a twisted hull it might float in calm water but if it ever hit a force eight it would probably founder.

Even then it might have worked for it was launched with a manual of rules, the Growth And Stability Pact. If the terms of that book of rules had been complied with the Good Ship Euro might have survived.

But compliance was entrusted bto the European Central Bank which catastrophically failed to insist on that compliance.

Rules governing the growing of cucumbers are more zealously enforced. This was a European Bank in a German city under a French president and it failed in its primary, even its sole, duty.

This had everything to do with France and Germany and nothing whatever to do with Britain.

Yet in Brussels last week the EU pack seemed intent only on venting its spleen on the country that wisely refused to abolish its pound.

You did not even address yourselves to saving the euro but only to seeking a way to ensure it might work in some future time.

But the euro will not be saved. It is crumbling now. And since you have now turned against my country, from this side of the Channel, Madame Chancellor, one can only say of the euro: YOU MADE IT, YOU MEND IT.

Who really ruined England? Look inward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBasd...eature=related

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by hoytedow

Christianity; It's not just for white people anymore.

Jesus --the king of the Jews was an Arab, probably black. Not too surprising seeing he was born in Africa. Not exactly the picture of the white European that is normally depicted as the Jesus.

[hoytedow]

Jesus is of Semitic/Aramaic(linguistic group) descent, same as the Arabs, descended from Abraham. That is a Caucasian strain.

[Bamby]

Originally Posted by masalai

Here is a bit more conspiratorial stuff http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=21188 "Israel: "Wiped off The Map". The Rumour of the Century, Fabricated by the US Media to Justify An All out War on Iran " - - - Now some things are getting really nutty.........

mas the truth is probably closer to this: China, Russia, and Iran Dumping the Dollar for Gold

Or this: Secret Iran Gold Holdings Leaked: Tehran Holds Same Amount Of Gold As United Kingdom, And Is Buying More

Seems they don't want to sit by and watch their dollars assets corrode to nothingness through monetary inflation....

[Boston]

Originally Posted by powerabout

Why would a Native American need christianity?

No clue, I didn't actually meet any of them, just did a preliminary structural inspection on the building. My friends want to turn it into a nonprofit community/education center for all the kids who the school system has failed so miserably in the hood there. Seems like its a good idea and the folks who own it now know they can't afford to maintain the building, which is in sore need of attention.

I just got a bang out of standing there talking to Jamie and her sister in Texas calls me, what are the odds eh. Those two and I hang out at a science fiction convention ( yup I'm a dork ) every year for something like the last 20 years or so. We go way back.

I'd watch the religion around here, we have some really sensitive peeps lurking in the shadows, oh well, to each his/her own eh. But I did warn my friends about dealing with churches, very slippery bunch, gotta watch your back big times around that crowd.

probably said to much already but yeh, whats up with that eh.

[hoytedow]

Live long and prosper.

[Boston]

the open letter to the German Chancellor

yup the Germans are looking good if they ditch the Euro, and they are positioned well if they don't. But I don't think you can blame them for looking out for there own. We do. Hell we've fought wars to keep the almighty buck firmly stationed as the worlds oil trade currency.

Its a conspiracy ;-)

[Boston]

peace and long life

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by hoytedow

Jesus is of Semitic/Aramaic(linguistic group) descent, same as the Arabs, descended from Abraham. That is a Caucasian strain.

You would think God being Oh so wise would have had Jesus born in the countries that would be Christian , I mean he would have known all this, wouldnt he? Why have him born in a land that is now Muslim.

This is a rhetorical Question --I know the answer.

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by Boston

peace and long life

Thanks, now where did I put that cloaking device? I forgot to turn it off when I laid it down.

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by Frosty

You would think God being Oh so wise would have had Jesus born in the countries that would be Christian , I mean he would have known all this, wouldnt he? Why have him born in a land that is now Muslim.

This is a rhetorical Question --I know the answer.

The Muslims rode through ~600 years later, killing Christians and Jews all the way.

[Frosty]

Naaa I dont belive you ,--God would not let them do that would he? God is kind and caring. Unless he was'nt there or does not exist. Hmm that would make a lot of sense.

You are seperating Jews and Christians. Christ was the king of the Jews.

[hoytedow]

Herod objected to that statement.

It ticked him off. You might say he was a Herod-tic.