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Old 10-07-2007, 05:18 AM
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Come on the Yellows, we're all rooting for you!!! (no Bergalia not that kind of 'rooting' but there again..........
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:58 PM
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Concerned about the burgeoning crisis in the China Sea, and looking to bolster Taiwan's security without appearing to take an overly aggressive position regarding China, Vice President Cheney announced that the US would be sending a prototype of its newest Shallow Draft High Maneuverability Port Security Patrol Vessel.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:17 AM
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If it was a real gun and he fired it. The boat could probably go astern faster then ahead under motor.

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Old 10-08-2007, 07:45 AM
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Cool thread guys.
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Old 10-08-2007, 07:56 AM
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Try this video. http://www.topspeed.com/boats/boat-n...r-ar39910.html

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Old 10-08-2007, 12:16 PM
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Nice bit of kit - everybody should have one! would take the traffic of the roads and into the rivers! Then we'ed really see some fun! Chaos yes but fun!!
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:18 PM
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Yeah! How would they paint those lines for the speed cameras. Imagine the taxes they could impose. And we could introduce congestion charging in busy areas... The possibilities are endless!
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:55 PM
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Yes Trev that does have promise doesn't it?!?
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:38 PM
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And here is Catalonia's answer, maybe Guilermo can tell us more:

(submarine built in 1862 by Narcus Monturiol i Estarriol)
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:25 PM
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China's Secret Nuclear Submarine Project

While Guillermo is preening himself (following all the sickening sucking-up offered by members elsewhere) I'll step in with a brief resume...

The Ictineo II was probably the world's first real submarine and a reconstruction is mounted in the harbour at Barcelona.

The original submarine was built in timber in 1862 from the plans of Narcis Monturiol I Estarriol and was the first true submarine to submerge, and using 'man-power' navigated below the waters of the port of Barcelona.

An earlier version, the Ictineo was successfully launched in 1859 but was damaged by a freighter as it was moored at the dock.

Monturiol then built the second, larger Ictineo II, a twin skinned vessel, steam-driven and able to operate under water. In test runs it was able to dive to 90 feet below sea level and stay submerged for up to seven hours.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:37 PM
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The 231st anniversary of the world's first combat submarine mission passed recently. While primitive compared to Hunley or Ictineo II, American Turtle was built in 1776 and carried out a combat mission.

The mission's goal was to force the British squadron blocking the entrance to NY harbor to withdraw, by attacking one of the ships with an explosive mine. One day before the mission, Ezra Bushnell, brother of designer David Bushnell, who had trained extensively on American Turtle, was reported too ill to report for duty. Ezra Lee, who was part of the support crew, was recruited to pilot the mission, with only one day's practice.

Lee submerged and successfully navigated to a point beneath the keel of HMS Eagle. Lacking Bushnell's experience, he was unable to drill through the copper sheathed bottom, and withdrew. On the return voyage, he believed he had been spotted and that a nearby moving vessel was attacking him. He released the mine, which drifted near the anchored squadron and later exploded. While the explosion caused no damage, the British squadron commander recognized the threat and withdrew further offshore, which increased the success rate of the small and fast blockade runners.

Each of these subs marked a different first in submarine history. I have nothing but admiration for the crews of each of them. Trusting technology to enable submerging and surfacing at a time when steam boilers were exploding with dismaying frequency took a lot of courage. Their feats were, in my mind, like the first astronauts, going into unknown frontiers.
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Monturiol then built the second, larger Ictineo II, a twin skinned vessel, steam-driven and able to operate under water. In test runs it was able to dive to 90 feet below sea level and stay submerged for up to seven hours.
Among several technological advances in Ictineo II was the exothermic chemical reaction system, generating steam without combustion and its pesky consumption of air.
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Yeah! How would they paint those lines for the speed cameras.
Waterproof paint of course!
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