CATS of Waterworld...... The Movie

[Wellydeckhand]

Let put some of these stuff into the the end of the world senario stuff

[IndianRiverMan]

"who design and made the cats for the movie WATERWORLD........... ?"

Keith Notary, I believe built the cat in Water World, not sure of the designer...I've been to his shop and seen a twin to the one in Water World being built...at least it looked so to me...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Notary
Extreme 40 scantlings? {this has contact info inclusive but mentions a different movie so perhaps I am incorrect-been a while}

[yipster]

saw the good movie on tv last night think for the tenth? time and
noted how the pic opened with the cat splashing its ama but than
again was impressed with that boom sinking into the deck, a feetwinch,
the telescopic mast and boom and quit a few more intersting features
not often discussed and still wondering how realistic they may be

[PAR]

My understanding is they made a few different versions of this boat, a sailing version and a tricked out, telescoping stick, shoot down aircraft version, etc. The weight aloft of the tricked out version wouldn't sail anywhere without a huge risk of capsize. Practical, not very likely, when you calculate up the hydraulics and electrics alone, she'll double her weight pretty quickly. Why would you want below deck stowage of the boom? How much interior volume do you surrender to this cute feature, which is fairly precious on this boat anyway? Telescoping mast - why? What advantage over a tabernacle would this have? Rotor drive? Oh pleeeease . . . How about justifying the 2" round tubing crows nest. It's pure fantasy and well lit too.

[keysdisease]

My understanding is close what PAR just shared. One boat was tricked out for all the close up whiz - bang stuff and the other sailed and was used in all the sailing "beauty shots." It was crewed by a bunch of guys below decks and all Kevin Costner's jumping around and pulling strings was just for show, all the go was happening below decks.

[yipster]

thx for the reply's guy's and i knew i could expect answers like that, sure, 2 boats were used and its a fantasy movie and i dont mean the shooting down airplane stuff but seriously

Originally Posted by PAR

Why would you want below deck stowage of the boom?

whats wrong with a pedal winch, ever been fighting a boom at sea in a growing storm? sails furl nowaday's in boom and/or masts and taking this pure fantasy a step further on a bi-rigged cat not only the booms but masts too can go below, various rotors are allready used for energy storage, cant and wont justify the 2" round tubing crows nest as i dont see what you mean and yes much is nonsense but there is also food for thought imho

[PAR]

I'm not picking on you Yipster, I just think a tabernacle is a much lighter system then a stowing boom (with flaked sail) and the stowing mast, well, that's a lot of internal volume to surrender to this particular feature, that doesn't help sailing, motoring or accommodations allotment.

As to the "grinder", well this is a bit interesting, but appears cumbersome, a fair bit of windage and weight, compared to a conventional vertical grinder. I can only imagine how much a telescoping mast(s) would weight, even if carbon. Keeping it in column would be a frustrating set of engineering variables too. Would the stays and shrouds reel up too, or employ free standing, sectional sticks?

I've seen solid tree masts, in the hundreds of pounds range, raised and lowered with little more then a push from the crew in well designed and counter weighted tabernacles.

Windage, weight, engineering, cost and practicality aside, I'd need more convincing to consider any of it. The grinder mounted low enough, so you aren't just using your arms would and does work effectively.

[Corley]

Franck Cammas had a bike powered grinder on Groupama3 when he was sailing the boat singlehanded. It looked a bit cumbersome but worked well apparently. I would think something close to the deck like a recumberent style bike would be a better solution.

http://yachtpals.com/route-du-rhum-9170

[PAR]

That's considerably different then the Water World arrangement. I would suspect it's pretty slow, regardless of gear ratio(s).

[Petros]

You all seem to miss the "theology" of the movie, and the reason for the gadgets. All of the "good" people used wind powered or solar powered devices, they paddled sea kayaks, used wind mills or sail boats; all of the "evil" people ("smokers") burned fossil fuel and polluted the planet (that lead to the polar caps melting and flooding the planet).

So for the hero to be able to combat fuel powered villains, he had to have some non-polluting technology to out smart the smokers. Hence the windmill, the bicycle like winch, the compressed air canon harpoon, etc.

It is silly, but that is Hollywood. That was how the writer and director had to have the movie come across, everyone that burns fuel is "evil", they destroy the planet. Clearly there is clearly no reason for it since we all obviously can get by just fine using wind and solar power.

[PAR]

I wounder what he lubed up all that "gear" with, fish guts? Pleeease . . . Personally, I'll clean the hinges on my solar panels with a blast from a can of WD-40, maybe wash it off with a little solvent from the very top of the cracking tower . . .