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Old 01-13-2012, 06:12 AM
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Educated is a funny word. There is education and then there is education. Is a individual who studies a two thousand year old text for 20 years and finds all the answers to life in that text or similar scrolls educated? Is an individual who attends a modern school or university that adheres to rigid boxed ideas truely educated? Educated is a funny word I personally like enlightened to be epoxy bonded to that funny word. I also like the idea of educated-enlightened and outside the box thinking as a combination.
Everyone is educated in something. No one person is well educated in everything. That is why we have specialists. The plumber isn't a surgeon and the surgeon doesn't fix BMW's. The BMW mechanic may know everything about that brand and nothing about Wankel engines, yet all are educated and certified in their specialty.

No matter how smart we think we are there are things we know little or nothing about.
So that makes us all uneducated in some things.
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:15 AM
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education is valuable where ever you find it. It's not the unique perogative of universities. School offer three advantages over self study. discipline. Get the work in on time if you want credit. Two, guidance. So not to go off obsessed in a cul de sac. three Credentials so others can accept you as a luminary. Selecting a good teacher is as important as selection of friends and spouses.
Unfortunately most students can't pick their teachers. So. Discipleship under a dyed in the wool what ever discipline, may be detrimental to later thinking out of the box.
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:19 AM
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How to explain the rare examples of the utterly uneducated doing extraordinary things ?

"Joan of Arc is the most astounding figure in the whole of medieval history. What makes her story so especially compelling is that she is the most thoroughly documented figure in European history until the modern era. Her two trials, one of condemnation and one of rehabilitation, the latter in which over one hundred and fifty eye witnesses gave direct testimony to the events of her life and military career, are an enduring and unimpeachable record of a story so fabulous, it’s still hard to believe. Perhaps most astounding, the affirmations of her Captains indicate that Joan was in actual command of the French army, responsible for the strategic, grand tactical and tactical decisions which reversed the course of the Hundred Years War. "
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That is why we have specialists. The plumber isn't a surgeon and the surgeon doesn't fix BMW's. The BMW mechanic may know everything about that brand and nothing about Wankel engines,
Morning Hoyt.
Doctor called plumber to fix his sink. Job took 5 minutes and plumber presented bill for $50 labor.
Doc was outraged!
$50 for 5 minutes work? That's $1000 an hour! I'm a Doctor and I don't make a $1000 per hour!
Plumber cooly replied, "Neither did I when I was a doctor."
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:22 AM
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Morning Hoyt.
Doctor called plumber to fix his sink. Job took 5 minutes and plumber presented bill for $50 labor.
Doc was outraged!
$50 for 5 minutes work? That's $1000 an hour! I'm a Doctor and I don't make a $1000 per hour!
Plumber cooly replied, "Neither did I when I was a doctor."
LOL!!!
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:25 AM
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I must say my co-pay last doctor visit was $20 not counting remuneration by insurance company. That visit didn't last 10 minutes.
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hoytedow;That is why we have specialists. The plumber isn't a surgeon and the surgeon doesn't fix BMW's. The BMW mechanic may know everything about that brand and nothing about Wankel engines, QUOTE

Morning Hoyt.
Doctor called plumber to fix his sink. Job took 5 minutes and plumber presented bill for $50 labor.
Doc was outraged!
$50 for 5 minutes work? That's $1000 an hour! I'm a Doctor and I don't make a $1000 per hour!
Plumber cooly replied, "Neither did I when I was a doctor."
Hmmm.....I make that $600 an hour. Or was that plus tax ? I don't know what dentists charge in the US, but they lead the field in organized robbery here. $600 an hour wouldn't cover it.
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:33 AM
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you're right...50 times 20 is 1000 and 20 times 5 = 100. Don't they have 100 minutes in an hour Down Under? I thoght everybody was on the metric system now.

LOL Sorry Brain pooted.
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100 seconds to the minute,

100 minutes to the hour,

10 hours to the day,

100 days to the year,

10 tears to a decade,

100 years to...

Fabulous system...

One catch, you'd have to change the length of a second to make it work.

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Old 01-13-2012, 11:35 AM
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100 seconds to the minute,

100 minutes to the hour,

10 hours to the day,

100 days to the year,

10 tears to a decade,

100 years to...

Fabulous system...

One catch, you'd have to change the length of a second to make it work.

-Tom
make seconds short so get 100 hours in a day instead of 10. Then pay me by the hour.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:15 PM
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Yoby,

I've had coffee with Bill Garden a couple of times.

How did you get to know of him?

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Old 01-13-2012, 01:07 PM
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Picked up a catalog of his designs in a used book store many years ago.
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We were talking firearms today and the story of the Austrian firearms manufacture Glock came up.
Apparently the founder Gaston Glock, was an industry outsider with no firearms experience at all but had a strong polymer background.
His development of the polymer framed Glock pistols has revolutionized modern firearms production by his 'out of the box' thinking:

"The Glock pistol, sometimes referred to by the manufacturer as Glock "Safe Action" Pistol, is a series of semi-automatic pistols designed and produced by Glock Ges.m.b.H., located in Deutsch-Wagram, Austria. The company's founder, engineer Gaston Glock, had no experience with firearm design or manufacture at the time their first pistol, the Glock 17, was being prototyped. Glock did, however, have extensive experience in advanced synthetic polymers, knowledge of which was instrumental in the company's design of the first successful line of pistols with a polymer frame. Glock introduced ferritic nitrocarburizing into the firearms industry as an anti-corrosion surface treatment for metal gun parts.[5]

Despite initial resistance from the market to accept a "plastic gun" due to durability and reliability concerns, Glock pistols have become the company's most profitable line of products, commanding 65% of the market share of handguns for United States law enforcement agencies[6] as well as supplying numerous national armed forces and security agencies worldwide."
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I worked in the financial industry for a while,but left due to the preponderance of fools and psychopaths with degrees.

Was openly derided due to having no degree-that quieted down quite quickly when I,with no formal education in financial fields, out performed them all by a factor of 100% within 2 weeks and 500% within 6 weeks.
Two months later I quit.

I also hated wearing suits and attending stupid useless boring meetings
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Speaking of Bill Garden I was reading and fascinating by this older topic today
Missing Bill Garden designed launch - Anybody seen it?
You are lucky to have had the chance to meet him.
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