Boating and cost

[MikeJohns]

Vega :-)
What you describe is basically coastal cruising. My current boat is a good coastal cruiser too. Voyaging is a bit different and the design paradigm is different .
Much of the rest of the world is free, poorly serviced and large boats let you spend many months in comfort and give you safety and better speed in your passages.

When ready for another big trip we will exchange our performance 45 footer for something heavy and comfortable between 50 and 60 feet again. There is a lot of compromise in sailing vessels and your cruising grounds will dictate the vessel too. I really like having 5 or 6 people aboard for security comfort and camaraderie but I also like the wild seldom visited areas far more than the marina towns.

[SWG]

Errr... I dont mean to sound like a noob, but what's a "mooring"

[Frosty]

Its when you tie your 400,000 dollar boat to a bit of chain fastened to a lump of concrete burried in the mud, bit like tying a bull through its nose to a tree.

Then, -- and then,-- Oh you'lle like this bit--you expect it to be still there in the morning???

[Mychael]

Originally Posted by jack frost

Then, -- and then,-- Oh you'lle like this bit--you expect it to be still there in the morning???

"Hope" As in I "hope" my boat will be there in the morning (as one time it wasn't). And I only have a little boat by comparison to what some of the forum members talk about owning.

Pens are great for those as can afford them.

Mychael.

[SWG]

Wow. I'd just sleep on it. That way I may wake up in the morning in the middle of nowhere where all I can see is sea in all directions when I'm out of gass.....

BUT AT LEAST I STILL GOT MY BOAT!

:O

[fiberglass jack]

look to spending 5 to 10% off the cost of the boat every year on mantanace,and that depends on how good a captain you are, are u able to do the mechanical yourself ,major glass repairs, shes not a cheap alternative,mooring fees can cost a few hundred a year per foot in a well kept marinia or you can always moor her in a floating trailerpark for cheap,we dont have to pay property tax here in canada but we only have may to october

[Vega]

Originally Posted by jack frost

But surely that only if you are a Sardine?

Hey jack, Sardines are what fishermen fish around here . I think they call themselves Sardos.

No, quite the opposite. If you have an annual berth rent in a local marina you are exempt. It is only for visitors.

“Dozens of yacht owners have been tapped by Italian authorities for not paying Sardinia’s new luxury tax for non-residents.

Checks of the island’s marinas began Aug. 9, the day after a 60-day enactment cushion had expired on the tax charged to yachts over 14m, private planes and second homes within 3km of the sea, according to a report by the Italian news service AGI. …….

Several Sardinian ports, many of which object to the tax, are giving yachts favorable rates for annual contracts. Yachts with annual contracts are exempt from the tax…..

"I suggested to the owner that we boycott Sardinia due to the extortionate tax charges," …..."

The tax is in effect from June 1 to Sept. 30. Rates are charged on a graduated scale – the larger the yacht, plane or home, the more tax is owed. For a yacht such as CV-9, the tax amounts to 10,000 euros (almost $13,000).

It is a one-time tax for the entire season, but applies separately to yachts, planes and homes. One yacht owner who flew into Sardinia to meet his yacht paid both the landing tax and the mooring tax, about $27,000 total, according to the captain, who asked that the owner’s yacht not be identified.
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But in a story on ANSA.it, the island’s regional governor, Renato Soru, who added the tax to the budget at the last minute in May, said affluent visitors were being charged "relatively small sums." ……

At the same time that some yacht captains and owners are fighting Sardinia’s new luxury tax, Italian authorities are proposing similar taxes be implemented in ports around the country.

On Aug. 20, The Sunday Times of London reported that an Italian minister has urged regional governments in Capri and Sicily to copy Sardinia’s tax. In Sicily, the idea already has the support of an Italian consumers association.
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Even if there was a fall in marine traffic, The Times reported Soru as saying it was "not necessarily a bad thing. At times our seas are so crowded they resemble motorways."

"Most rich tourists, in any case, do not spend a single euro in Sardinia," he told the newspaper, which is why he created the tax.
http://www.the-triton.com/archives/s...2006_00044.htm

[Frosty]

It is becoming more and more popular to keep boats in Asia. A few people I know live in UK and the USA for instance and fly to asia to see their boat. There is no taxes ,fuel is cheaper ,marina fees are a fraction , nice weather that can be almost guranteed, exotic food, and many deserted islands to anchor off with out a soul in sight.

Yep it probably sounds like a Sunsail advert and yes those would be the words they would use.

It would mean that that it might not be less than keeping the boat in your own country but it will mean that you will be able to use it to its fullest extent of enjoyment. Oh and I forgot to say that boat maintenance is as good as Europe now yet half the price.

Here just south of the border of Thailand in Malaysia my marina fee is 200 dollar per month, free water. I have posted a satalite picture of the marina where i stay on the thread "google earth"

If you get bored with sailing catch the overnight sleeper to Bangkok, or cruise down the coast to Singapore.