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Old 12-18-2010, 02:04 PM
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50 to 53ft boat charter for free in the Aegean Sea!

Hi mates,

as almost every Winter, I chartered a fleet of boats to test my competition.

Last time, and this year again, it was sailing boats in the 50 to 55ft range mostly.

I do not perform the tests this Winter, so I have a wide range (6 vessels) of boats, at idle, but fully paid.

If you want to sail the Aegean Sea, this Winter for free, apply for a boat.

All craft are brandnew, or at least equivalent to newest versions of the respective brand. All have at least four double cabins, mainly en suite.

"Charter" period is from 25th of Dec. 2010 to 5th of Feb. 2011. Location Turkish Aegean coast.
You can sail the boats to Greece without any problem!

Transfer (on own expenses) via Istanbul / Dalaman, or Rhodes / Marmaris for low rates at present.

Notice!
It may happen, that I am present on a Trip for up to two days! Hence one cabin is NOT available at any time!

It is NOT allowed to subcharter!

You have to provide acceptable licenses (including VHF license) prior to trip.

ALL cost and expenses are free, including mooring at any Marina, fuel used, up to 50 miles/day, and insurances.
Not included are personal provisions (though all vessels are provisioned for two crew, for two weeks, which can be consumed)

Adults have to pay a 100 US$ fee, to the local authorities, each, for a "Transit Log" providing unrestricted navigation in Turkish waters.

Children are my guests!

Two adults with one child pay the entire (terrible) 200$ fee. Two adults with three children pay nothing! I provide the "TL" cost by 100$ per child from the second one.

(hmm, three adults with five children would get paid for the trip, or so...)

Transiting between Greece and Turkey is absolutely NO problem, but crossing the borders is about 100$ per case, which are NOT included.

Feel free to contact me by mail, if you think you may like the (relatively) warm waters of the southern Med. and the opportunity to charter a new boat for free.

Get rid of the Christmas stress? Enjoy life, as I ...

Regards
Richard

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please I do not want beggars and other retards! This is a serious offer to all those, knowing the business. No I do not pay for any transport! And I do not give the vessels as a gift after the charter period! They are not mine, and YOU do not deserve them! -----Unbelievable, but people attack me even for this. Fortunately there are others.....I quote:
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What is wrong with people on here lately?

A few characters on here have been giving you a hard time for no reason at all.

They seem to think they know a great deal about Germany... more than someone who lives there. Idiots.

Well, the real people on this board are happy to see you posting good information. Don't fall into the trap of the stupid. They seem to be everywhere all of a sudden!
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:21 AM
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A real positive shock here... Apex.
Have you really got questions like "do you pay for transport...?"
I'm even considering the possibility of using a pedal bike from Norway.... (ok to those who didn't get it; that was a joke), right now, I can't see how to make a getaway... Minus 16 deg C, and snow is a pretty convincing argument to get my ar**# down to warmer areas, if it was a sailboat in the other end; can't see any problem at all... Knut
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:07 AM
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please I do not want beggars and other retards! This is a serious offer to all those, knowing the business. No I do not pay for any transport! And I do not give the vessels as a gift after the charter period! They are not mine, and YOU do not deserve them!
That's what happens when you offer something for free. Guess that's one of the reasons the prices are kept high enough - to fence off people like that.
And beware also of those who want to embark cases of beer on board. The boat will need a general refit after the party is over.
But I guess you already know all that...

Cheers Richard!
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Old 12-21-2010, 08:56 AM
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A wonderful and generous offer, I hope it goes well and when over, you can say, "I feel good and the results were worth the expense".
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:12 AM
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Thanks for your comments!
I must not care about the beer Daiquiri, the end cleaning is to be done under the responsibility of those using the boat. But of course I know how some people think about others properties.

I was asked for some details.

The boats are of different brands, Dufour, Beneteau and other well known mass products. And they are all sloop´s.

The rest was said already.

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Richard
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Old 12-21-2010, 10:49 PM
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Richard
Fabulous and generous offer, pity I don't arrive in Europe until mid-March.

I'd come earlier except that I'd need to pack my own snowplough by the looks of the weather reports......
And I'll be on a beach here with family and friends for some of that time anyway.
Compliments of season to all, and may 2011 bring all you wish for.
Cheers - Brian
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:32 PM
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Merry Christmas to all!

This offer is on hold until I sorted out the different ways to get the boats manned.
Different applicants have (of course) different times they prefer or can afford. Some US members have license prob´s (which most likely cannot be solved), and some German members have obligations over the Christmas holiday period.
Even giving something can be a harder job than expected....

Anyway, it is still valid, and you can still apply. MAIL ONLY PLEASE
Only two of 6 boats are definetively given.

Regards
Richard
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:34 PM
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Merry Christmas to all!

This offer is on hold until I sorted out the different ways/times to get the boats manned.
Different applicants have (of course) different times they prefer or can afford. Some US members have license prob´s (which most likely cannot be solved), and some German members have obligations over the Christmas holiday period.
Even giving something can be a harder job than expected....

Anyway, it is still valid, and you can still apply. MAIL ONLY PLEASE

Only two of 6 boats are definetively given.

Regards
Richard
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Old 12-25-2010, 01:02 AM
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Richard, what paper beyond a Merchant Mariner License of appropriate tonnage, TWIC, STCW, Radio Operator and Visa would be helpful or required for a US Citizen? I can't come (I wish I could and dearly appreciate the offer) but was thinking for future reference. In the US, one can't breath without a TWIC anymore - Does Europe use the same security format?
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Old 12-26-2010, 10:32 PM
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I will be looking for 3-4 crew for my 25m ketch parked in Yalikavak (Bodrum Penn) going back in August 2011. So anyone unable to sail now could have 3weeks Turkey/Greece if they are keen. I know the region well so I'm willing to pilot a small flotilla.
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Old 12-27-2010, 06:22 PM
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Richard, what paper beyond a Merchant Mariner License of appropriate tonnage, TWIC, STCW, Radio Operator and Visa would be helpful or required for a US Citizen? I can't come (I wish I could and dearly appreciate the offer) but was thinking for future reference. In the US, one can't breath without a TWIC anymore - Does Europe use the same security format?
Just a plain amateur license is sufficient Mark! But a VHF license is as well.

I don´t know what TWIC stands for?

In Europe (and worldwide) the most common licenses are the German "Sportbootführerschein", and the British "Yachtmaster"

The "Yachtmaster Ocean" is the top of that range in Britain, but less (far less) than the German "Sporthochseeschifferschein" which is equivalent to a old commercial A4 Patent.

But anyway, the VHF licenses are required almost worldwide meanwhile. And when coastal navigation is part of the game (including crossing borders) GMDSS approvals are part of it.

The latter are a problem for US citicens, most of them do not even know they exist.

In this case, just a plain VHF operators license is enough of course, althought the last boat left, is equipped with GMDSS stuff.

Thats the last state,
one boat is left (of six) and that is available between mid Feb. to beginning of March. (terms/dates are always flexible, it is off season in the Aegean Sea)

Impressive enough, the tiny little EU community here, booked 5 boats, the hughe US did just express ONE interest. Thank cou Catbuilder! I will do my best to get it done for you! I even hold the boat back, to make it available for you. (I have no loss, giving it, or leaving it sitting in port)

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Richard

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I will be looking for 3-4 crew for my 25m ketch parked in Yalikavak (Bodrum Penn) going back in August 2011. So anyone unable to sail now could have 3weeks Turkey/Greece if they are keen. I know the region well so I'm willing to pilot a small flotilla.
Are you offering that for free?


Don´t get me wrong, but if not, you are hijacking my thread, and fy"§ing members! I may like to burn your junk in that case!
I will look for a 25m ketch in Yalikavak! Be sure. Gulet ???
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Old 12-27-2010, 07:09 PM
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I'm sorry. TWIC is an acronym for Transportation Worker Identification Credential. I can't enter any port here in a commercial capacity without it. A port authority or Coast Guard can scan my card and know who I am, match my fingerprint instantly with a photo that will show on their device and know any security threat I may pose. It actually frees one to come and go as he pleases. Without it, I cannot carry passengers nor cargo here - In fact, I am technically not allowed access to any part of a port except designated tourist areas without it. Our new licenses look like a passport now and there is a slot in the cover for the TWIC. They tell me that a license is no longer valid without the TWIC. I thought if they used the same system in Europe, it would ease access because the things are difficult to forge and it tells authorities everything about the bearer. They will probably come up with another format for use worldwide and another intensive background check next year!
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Old 12-27-2010, 07:20 PM
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I have all the same creds as Mark. I will see if I can pick up a VHF station license when I go to renew my Master in Jan. It may be too late for Richard's generous offer, however. If someone claims the last boat, please do not hold it for me. I would rather see it go to good use than be held for a chance I can get a radio credential in time. I guess that makes zero Americans, unfortunately.
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:16 PM
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No, No, no. Get your FCC license from the FCC - nothing to do with the Coast Guard and quick, tomorrow you can have it. It's not a station license - It is a quiz and very basic..."duh, is it alright to say 'F%&c You' on the radio?" "What significance is 2182 kHz?" "Say you are asking a friend about his sister's health on 16 VHF and someone interrupts. What do you do about it?" For 25 years I have not had this as FCC didn't inforce in Alaska and the only times I have left Alaska by boat was on a tug or mud boat with its own station license...but this year the FCC worked out a way to harrass us in the farthest reaches by asking the Coast Guard to make sure we have both a personal license and station license. You'll probably need it for your inspection you have next year anyway (unless you are a six passenger vessel).
Look up the FCC in whatever the nearest city of over 100,000 or so and you'll walk out with it in one day.
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:04 AM
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Just a plain amateur license is sufficient Mark! But a VHF license is as well.

I don´t know what TWIC stands for?

In Europe (and worldwide) the most common licenses are the German "Sportbootführerschein", and the British "Yachtmaster"

The "Yachtmaster Ocean" is the top of that range in Britain, but less (far less) than the German "Sporthochseeschifferschein" which is equivalent to a old commercial A4 Patent.

But anyway, the VHF licenses are required almost worldwide meanwhile. And when coastal navigation is part of the game (including crossing borders) GMDSS approvals are part of it.

The latter are a problem for US citicens, most of them do not even know they exist.

In this case, just a plain VHF operators license is enough of course, althought the last boat left, is equipped with GMDSS stuff.

Thats the last state,
one boat is left (of six) and that is available between mid Feb. to beginning of March. (terms/dates are always flexible, it is off season in the Aegean Sea)

Impressive enough, the tiny little EU community here, booked 5 boats, the hughe US did just express ONE interest. Thank cou Catbuilder! I will do my best to get it done for you! I even hold the boat back, to make it available for you. (I have no loss, giving it, or leaving it sitting in port)

Regards
Richard



Are you offering that for free?


Don´t get me wrong, but if not, you are hijacking my thread, and fy"§ing members! I may like to burn your junk in that case!
I will look for a 25m ketch in Yalikavak! Be sure. Gulet ???
Hey Richard, some of us have integrity and not stealing your thunder, the offer is free, no strings just a chance to sail - some posts said that Xmas wouldn't fit.
FYI: I used to solo but unfortunately those days are over due to age (got realistic) and effects of serious injuries gratis 2009 super yacht project. So I need crew for cruising then, Nov 2011 will sail transfer the ketch to Hainan Is.

And my ketch ain't a Gulet although I can claim first hand experience having I sailed a 4yr old 30m Iroko Gulet from Turkey to Cape Town and would do it again. Gulets coming out of better yards in Icmeler and Tuzlar are a long way from old pine death traps of 10 years back.
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